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DrMrLordX

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I actually hope it doesn't have much crypto support so they get the gaming side developed.
The problem is that PoW algos are really just generic GPGPU. Unless Intel goes the nVidia route and tries to disable certain algorithms in the driver, not having much "crypto support" means that the Intel consumer dGPUs could be pretty broken for all GPGPU acceleration.
 
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The problem is that PoW algos are really just generic GPGPU. Unless Intel goes the nVidia route and tries to disable certain algorithms in the driver, not having much "crypto support" means that the Intel consumer dGPUs could be pretty broken for all GPGPU acceleration.
Yes, that was the worry about Nvidia changing mining speed. Not that Nvidia mind segmenting their line even more but there is the danger that if general GPU compute gets too slow, people will just use CPUs.
 

DrMrLordX

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Yes, that was the worry about Nvidia changing mining speed. Not that Nvidia mind segmenting their line even more but there is the danger that if general GPU compute gets too slow, people will just use CPUs.
Well not only that, but some GPGPU applications are "legit" and don't lead to massive shortages of consumer cards. Anyone wanting to play with FP64 loved Radeon VII.
 

JTsyo

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You know, this would have been the ideal time for Intel to get their GPUs out. Everyone is so desperate for cards they could have gotten a decent marketshare right off the bat.
 

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You know, this would have been the ideal time for Intel to get their GPUs out. Everyone is so desperate for cards they could have gotten a decent marketshare right off the bat.
Not a single chance to happen if they use TSMC N6 as reported...
 

IntelUser2000

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Not a single chance to happen if they use TSMC N6 as reported...
There will definitely be a dynamic component to it, but there's a lot of static allocation, also known as minimum orders.

So if everyone turns their backs on Intel GPUs there will be plenty of them available. Makes sense?

Just because AMD/Nvidia GPUs are unavailable doesn't mean Intel will end up being the same way. Of course parts shortages extend to general semiconductors not just TSMC, but assuming all the faults on TSMC and that it'll apply to an entirely different product makes little sense.

Intel will order an X amount and depending on demand Y amount will be added and/or given by TSMC. Because if whatever they can order is entirely dependent on TSMC lacking, then they are totally screwed and it's a stupid business decision.

Maybe we should think the opposite. Perhaps Intel is ordering a lot of chips from TSMC that's why AMD/Nvidia chips are having a shortage? Goes both ways.
 
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etrin

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intel has been shouting this stuff for over 3 years and nothing..Their last reply was integrated graphics....UH not discrete but you are intel
 

Red Squirrel

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Come to think of it what's stopping motherboard manufacturers from integrating graphics right into the motherboard? I always assumed this is what built on video actually was until I went AMD and found out the hard way. I guess is it a patent thing where they would not be allowed to because Intel, AMD and Nvidia own all the rights?
 

IntelUser2000

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Come to think of it what's stopping motherboard manufacturers from integrating graphics right into the motherboard?
Like put a GTX 1050 and GDDR5 memory on the motherboard?

It has been done before, but pretty rare. It would raise the prices of the board though, and you can't unplug and upgrade.
 
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Like put a GTX 1050 and GDDR5 memory on the motherboard?

It has been done before, but pretty rare. It would raise the prices of the board though, and you can't unplug and upgrade.
Yeah, to my admittedly amateur understanding there simply isn’t a market for it because the basic users don’t want to pay the extra for mid range performance and the upper end doesn’t want 1050 built in performance.
I suspect cooling is also a huge challenge because isn’t that area on the board real close to the cpu?
 

jpiniero

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Come to think of it what's stopping motherboard manufacturers from integrating graphics right into the motherboard? I always assumed this is what built on video actually was until I went AMD and found out the hard way. I guess is it a patent thing where they would not be allowed to because Intel, AMD and Nvidia own all the rights?
They do, but it's mostly on server boards. They have 2D only type graphics. Very low end.
 

IntelUser2000

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I guess is it a patent thing where they would not be allowed to because Intel, AMD and Nvidia own all the rights?
Patent/branding would only matter if they are rebranding the thing entirely. But in this case they can simply sell it mentioning the manufacturer and it's brand name.

For example, AMD X570 chipset with onboard Geforce GTX 1050 graphics.
 

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