News Intel to develop discrete GPUs - Almost 5 years later, cards are here!

[linkgoron]

Someone get Intel ARC a bigger set of boobies!

Just wait, Raja will bring back Ruby.

 

[Panino Manino]

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Let's not go by this metric [redacted]

This is not appropriate (or allowed) discussion in the tech forums.

AT Mod Usandthem

 

[igor_kavinski]

Just wait, Raja will bring back Ruby.

Ruby is AMD's doll. Intel will have to make a new one.

 

[Leeea]

For anyone hoping Intel's drivers will duplicate AMD's fine wine effect, I remind you how Intel fixes security flaws:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-disables-directx-12-on-haswell

Starting from Intel's graphics driver version 15.40.44.5107, applications that run exclusively on DirectX 12 API no longer work with GPUs integrated into Intel's 4th Generation Core processors as well as Celeron and Pentium chips powered by the Haswell architecture.

 

[Stuka87]

Ruby is AMD's doll. Intel will have to make a new one.

And she shall be named after some blue gemstone that isn't already copyrighted.

I am not sure AMD ever used Ruby themselves, Ruby was ATI era. Though AIBs kept Ruby on GPU packaging well into the 2010s. My Sapphire 7950 had Ruby on the box.

 

[maddie]

Ruby and her like ain't going to fly these days, unfortunately. The western world has turned.

 

[igor_kavinski]

GPU computing used for AI generation of cute digital girls. Intel might have to resort to that to get all the lonely fat teens interested.

Mom: "Matt!!!! What are you doing???? Dinner's getting cold!"

Matt: "Coming Mom!"

(Matt clicks the button to generate one more girl)

 

[moinmoin]

Despite only being launched in China Arc A380 seems to be plenty successful in creating hot air.

 

[gdansk]

It seems exactly like the Xe IGPs: good benchmark scores, subpar in games.

I suspect they either overfit their tests or the driver replaces shaders for benchmarks. Stranger things have happened.

 

[KompuKare]

Despite only being launched in China Arc A380 seems to be plenty successful in creating hot air.

What's the prevailing wind direction?

Could delivery via hot air balloons be a viable strategy?

Bonus if it's slow as that gives the driver team more time.

Had come into this thread expecting news now there has been a release of sorts, but it was all highjacked by anime talk so maybe NTMBK should rename the thread again!

 

[Stuka87]

This is related: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/06/leak-of-next-gen-intel-nuc-combines-a-12th-gen-cpu-with-intels-discrete-arc-gpu/

The machine itself is a nice form factor, and it physically looks nice. But uh, performance is unlikely to be worthy of that skull on the side.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Intel's NUCs aren't affordable. But at least, they will support it with drivers for a couple of years, if not more. There is hope for a modicum of success, even though it's probably microscopic from the looks of it.

 

[moinmoin]

performance is unlikely to be worthy of that skull on the side.

The skull can still signify the performance.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Skull means death to gaming!

 

[aigomorla]

Intel's NUCs aren't affordable.

LOL... someone calling a NUC affordable?
They never had the intention of being affordable... just TINY.
And like everything in the world you pay for TINY.

Well they can be affordable if you want an J processor, and not a real i3-i9

 

[igor_kavinski]

LOL... someone calling a NUC affordable?
They never had the intention of being affordable... just TINY.
And like everything in the world you pay for TINY.

If they were affordable, they would be more popular. But Intel doesn't understand economy of scale I guess. Wants to make the quick buck.

 

[JasonLD]

If they were affordable, they would be more popular. But Intel doesn't understand economy of scale I guess. Wants to make the quick buck.

I don't think Intel ever intends to sell NUCs in huge numbers. They are just reference platforms.

 

[moonbogg]

I don't think Intel ever intends to sell NUCs in huge numbers. They are just reference platforms.

New Unsold Crap

 

[TheELF]

For anyone hoping Intel's drivers will duplicate AMD's fine wine effect, I remind you how Intel fixes security flaws:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-disables-directx-12-on-haswell

Just saying, but didn't AMD tell people to just shut down half of the CPU they payed a lot of money for (use game mode) because it was performing badly in games?!
If that was the FX platform you thing AMD would have given even half a duck about fixing it?!

But Intel doesn't understand economy of scale I guess. Wants to make the quick buck.

No matter how much they scale this up it will always be more expensive to make than the bigger versions and people are always cheap, history is full of much better but more expensive tech that is now forgotten.

 

[psolord]

Intel may not be delivering (for now), but man this thread delivers! xD

 

[mikk]

Because of how GPUz has to measure power, it requires an update before it can properly see power usage anytime a new CPU/GPU comes out. It basically has to extrapolate its values, because not every chip reports current draw the same way. Intel's own reporting should be accurate, provided they aren't fibbing.

Yes indeed. There are two more tests, expreview tested the consumption directly on the PCIe slot and run 3dmark timespy. Spike up to 94.5W and slightly over 80W average. Idle consumption 20W, this is too high. Another weakness.

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In some of the higher game settings RX6400 struggles (I guess 4GB is the culprit).

This wasn't known:

The TBP of the GPU is configurable between 75W to 87W with the clock speed correspondingly configurable between 2 GHz to 2.35 GHz.

Exclusive: Intel Arc A380 GPU Official Benchmarks, Specs And Positioning

Intel's Arc A380 discrete graphics card has finally launched in China at roughly the exact time frame we predicted and while a couple of initial reviews have been posted, we hadn't seen a more holistic overview yet so decided to reach out to some of our Chinese colleagues. We got our hands on...

wccftech.com

 

[igor_kavinski]

That design option crap is annoying. How is the buyer supposed to differentiate between the three different clocked versions? A naming scheme like A380L, A380 and A380H could have helped.

 

[Asterox]

Despite only being launched in China Arc A380 seems to be plenty successful in creating hot air.

Not in the AMD kitchen............................

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1539807957172363264

 

[Aapje]

That design option crap is annoying. How is the buyer supposed to differentiate between the three different clocked versions? A naming scheme like A380L, A380 and A380H could have helped.

That's a general problem with laptops. CPU's can also be set up with a different TDP and you often don't get told, so you don't know how good the CPU will actually perform.

 

[Stuka87]

Yes indeed. There are two more tests, expreview tested the consumption directly on the PCIe slot and run 3dmark timespy. Spike up to 94.5W and slightly over 80W average. Idle consumption 20W, this is too high. Another weakness.

Was that measured with a single display or multi-display? If thats just a single display, that is crazy high compared to even higher end GPUs at idle. Even a 3080 will idle at less than 10W.