intel SSD 320 Series "8MB" bug

Binky

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I may be crazy, but if you're willing to spend the cash on an SSD, you should really slap yourself if you didn't spend the $40-$150 for a UPS.
 

sygyzy

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This sucks, I just bought a 120GB Intel 320 series. So far I haven't been affected. But at the same time, years of finally getting my act together and having a very extensive backup system, installing (mostly) only the OS on the SSD (boot) drive and having a powerful, high-end, UPS, makes me feel a little safer. I am obviously not looking forward to any problems but if I were to crash today for whatever reason, it wouldn't be difficult to get back on track.
 

nanaki333

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intel touted how they had super special features that made your drive invulnerable to power failure. DUN DUN DUN
 

bradley

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Yep, Intel's only drive with write protect capacitors experiences the very failure it was meant to prevent. Interestingly the 510 doesn't have this problem. Those caps also should allow an unpowered SSD to retain static data integrity for a much longer period. Anyhow, I just wanted say how much you beta testers are truly appreciated. :)

Though many commerical buyers have been trained to value IOPS and 4k, instead of real world benches and access times. For mere percentage point increases in speed from the fastest to slowest SSD, the cutting edge doesn't seem worth it to me. I'd personally rather have an older Intel SLC than a newer MLC.
 

nanaki333

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i've lost power plenty of times with my x1's in raid0 and never had data loss. i have 160GB 320s in raid0 now, so here's to knockin on wood!
 

Thor86

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Woah is right, my g2 Intels had their fair share of power down by power loss (yes I have UPS backups, but on an extended power outage doesn't help) and never had this issue. Guess the new techs are all succeptible to some form of glitch.
 

soundasleep

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I had this happen to me with a new Intel 320 120GB SSD (boot drive). Luckily I wasn't really using the system yet, just installing software and testing. But it's complete data loss and can only be "fixed" (i.e. reformatted) with a serious secure erase (using HDDErase in my case).

In my case, there was no lightning strike or anything like that. It was caused when my faulty Gigabyte H67 motherboard got stuck in boot cycles (another known problem) where the system resets over and over before even posting. This was enough of a "power loss" to kill the 320 drive. Others have said it happened to them just upon booting up with no apparent power loss - though it's usually associated with some sort of power loss. I don't think a UPS would help in any of these instances.

The issue is being discussed in an Intel forums thread here and was finally SORT OF acknowledged by Intel here. Though one poster says he called Intel and they are not officially recognizing the bug, just recognizing that people are CLAIMING to have this problem. So it's not clear that they are working on any kind of solution and it's certainly not clear whether this problem is fixable with firmware or if it's just a hardware defect.

Anyway, my SSD is now apparently functional but I haven't yet reinstalled Win7 on it or anything. I'm going to wait a few weeks to see if they announce anything, but I am strongly leaning toward just getting a refund from the retailer (I think I could).

Of course, some people will never encounter the issue. But my prediction is that these 320s will be remembered in much the same way the IBM Deathstars are remembered. Unfortunately it will be difficult to come up with a nickname for "320".
 

e-drood

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intel will release firmware update to lengthen time-out cycle --- re-booting loop is mb mfr bios issue --- also possibly related to both on-board multi phase pwr supply and/or the "power supply" user has re-cycled or newly purchased

pls don't invoke "deathstar" unless you fully understand causes and potential remedies --- enterprise users began submitting their corp counsel liability briefs to bigblue/now downsizedblue and a shotgun marriage w/ hitachi was v. rapidly arranged (disk storage products) or there would have been hella large writedown against earnings (ibm) & wallstreet started to react in a v. negative manner...

this is not deathstar "once more"...
 

T_Yamamoto

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Look on the bright side: You can fit something into 8mb. like a picture, and itll load up faster :D
 

Modular

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I may be crazy, but if you're willing to spend the cash on an SSD, you should really slap yourself if you didn't spend the $40-$150 for a UPS.


Huh? My SSD was $60 for 64gb model. I bought it because I didn't want to spend a ton of cash on an SSD and still have something fast enough to make a real world impact on performance. Adding another $100 to the overall cost to ensure that I don't lose everything if the power goes of is ludicrous. They should put a battery backup/shutdown software in the SSD if it requires it :D
 

Mark R

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Adding another $100 to the overall cost to ensure that I don't lose everything if the power goes of is ludicrous. They should put a battery backup/shutdown software in the SSD if it requires it :D

That's the ironic thing! The Intel 320 series drives *do* include built-in power backup and safe shutdown software.

The 8 MB problem is something that has also been reported with G1 and G2 Intel drives. This seems to be the drive's 'safe mode'. If something goes wrong and causes serious corruption to the flash, the drive will only be detected as '8 MB'. Depending on the problem, a secure erase may well revive the drive, at the cost of wiping all the data.
 

Blain

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My 320 series SSD is doing 107% fine.
^_^ But it's not one of the "low rent" models.
 

reb0rn

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update went fine... AS ssd score droped a bit, duno because of usage or because of new firmware... old score was 381 and now 368
 

Kenmitch

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OP should update the thread title with firmware fixed and add the download link to his first post :)

Good to see it was fixed.

Noticed that the firmware was outdated on my X25-V so I went ahead and flashed it to the current one. Figured as it was replaced this AM with a Crucial C300 I might as well update the firmware on it. Just gotta figure out what I'm gonna do with it now.
 

Shmee

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Intel is the OCZ of the SSD industry:thumbsdown:

LOL really? This makes no sense, though I can kinda see the humor in it.

Well I for one am glad to see a fix soon enough. Hopefully we these problems less and less in SSD's going forward, would be nice to have problem free sandforce drives!