If according to Ian's generational review, broadwell is 18.5% IPC increase over SB.
Let's assume Skylake is 7.5% increase over broadwell (not unimaginable for a TOCK). Then Sky is
(1.075)(1.185) = 27.4% faster than SB
Or in other words, a 6700K @ stock 4.2 turbo = SB @ 5.35 Ghz
This depends on my 7.5% increase assumption. But Skylake should be comparable to topped out SB. And after OC, a very clear winner.
By my math and arbitrary 7.5% assumption number, Skylake at 4.5 Ghz is would be equivalent to SB @ 5.733 Ghz
The non-ES are also R0 and there are validations at 5GHz but no pics, sorry. While it's not indicative of 24/7 it does IMHO give some idea of OC'ing potential. With 1.3V you might be looking at 4.5GHz or less depending on chip.Yeah I won't base overclocking capability on early ES samples and I wouldn't even run over 1.3vcore (even that seems high) through Skylake 14nm CPUs for longevity.
I'm going to have to disagree. I think you'd be surprised too. Check this out:
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And this chart doesn't even include Skylake benches, which are sure to be better than Broadwell. Now is a great time to upgrade your SandyB rig if you can afford to.
Someone in Intel marketing has been tasked with the unenviable challenge of figuring out how to build brand awareness and value around the silicon being dedicated to the iGPU portion of the chip so that Intel can begin the process of unlocking shareholder value. Good luck to all of us, our decoder ring is about to become ginormous.![]()
The new (many!) graphic options seem bizarre to me...
Its the sneaky back-door way to Larrabee'ing the marketDon't worry IDC, Intel's misdirection marketing mavens have already succeeded.
Pages and pages of this thread have seen (former?) overclocking enthusiasts debate the average-to-magnificent performance gains of Intel's stunning 14nm graphics technology. Performance so impressive that entry level 28nm dGPUs will be demolished. Again.
The brilliance of releasing globally (in a local sort of way) the Broadwell up-sized mobile CPU on the desktop with disappointing overclocking - but way better iGPU a few months before the next 14nm power-sipping powerhouse, softens up the resistance to the next generation of overclocking disappointment and 3-7% IPC gains.
The masters of die manipulation have already sold us on the vital importance of perf/watt - for CPUs. For graphics processing..well...that's what 10nm is for. Moar iGPU, because, today's desktop enthusiasts are obsessed with iGPU performance and the frame-spitting magic of eDRAM.
Seven versions of Iris!!! This is the stuff enthusiast..uh...shareholder dreams are made of.
This new era of dismal IPC gains and moar iGPUs is so exciting my decoder ring finger is getting twitchy.
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:biggrin::biggrin:Don't worry IDC, Intel's misdirection marketing mavens have already succeeded.
Pages and pages of this thread have seen (former?) overclocking enthusiasts debate the average-to-magnificent performance gains of Intel's stunning 14nm graphics technology. Performance so impressive that entry level 28nm dGPUs will be demolished. Again.
The brilliance of releasing globally (in a local sort of way) the Broadwell up-sized mobile CPU on the desktop with disappointing overclocking - but way better iGPU a few months before the next 14nm power-sipping powerhouse, softens up the resistance to the next generation of overclocking disappointment and 3-7% IPC gains.
The masters of die manipulation have already sold us on the vital importance of perf/watt - for CPUs. For graphics processing..well...that's what 10nm is for. Moar iGPU, because, today's desktop enthusiasts are obsessed with iGPU performance and the frame-spitting magic of eDRAM.
Seven versions of Iris!!! This is the stuff enthusiast..uh...shareholder dreams are made of.
This new era of dismal IPC gains and moar iGPUs is so exciting my decoder ring finger is getting twitchy.
Don't play with my heartI can see some shops in europe already selling 6700K and 6600K.
What about ITX motherboards?I can see some shops in europe already selling 6700K and 6600K.
I didnt check for any mobos. I know that Asrock is ready.What about ITX motherboards?
This forum should have an upvote function. +1.Don't worry IDC, Intel's misdirection marketing mavens have already succeeded.
Pages and pages of this thread have seen (former?) overclocking enthusiasts debate the average-to-magnificent performance gains of Intel's stunning 14nm graphics technology. Performance so impressive that entry level 28nm dGPUs will be demolished. Again.
The brilliance of releasing globally (in a local sort of way) the Broadwell up-sized mobile CPU on the desktop with disappointing overclocking - but way better iGPU a few months before the next 14nm power-sipping powerhouse, softens up the resistance to the next generation of overclocking disappointment and 3-7% IPC gains.
The masters of die manipulation have already sold us on the vital importance of perf/watt - for CPUs. For graphics processing..well...that's what 10nm is for. Moar iGPU, because, today's desktop enthusiasts are obsessed with iGPU performance and the frame-spitting magic of eDRAM.
Seven versions of Iris!!! This is the stuff enthusiast..uh...shareholder dreams are made of.
This new era of dismal IPC gains and moar iGPUs is so exciting my decoder ring finger is getting twitchy.
Yeah... I feel like my haswell will last me for quite a time (hopefully as much as 920 lastedThis forum should have an upvote function. +1.
Excatly the surface pro line is where i'd like to see how skylake fares. So far, other than that, its a *meh*. Keep the haswell(or ivey or sandy), get a 980ti or fury maybe.. and some 4K lovin'..Yeah... I feel like my haswell will last me for quite a time (hopefully as much as 920 lasted). After build up of IPC hype, Skylake turned out to be business as usual IPC increase. And this time not even AVX2 / FMA / BMI novelty like instruction set is here to make it interesting.
IGP is nice and dandy, i want that in laptop and especially in Surface (X) (PRO) type devices, but for desktop enthusiast Skylake seems to be skippable as long as you have Sandy gen+
Looking at your sig, if you're into cores, the 5960 would be the beast i'd be looking at. Apparantly it overclocks very well too, just ~100-200mhz under devils oc potential.Since my FX8350 rig died on me in the sig below. I'm surviving off a Surface Pro. Looking into building a skylake rig now or used 3000/4000k series.