Newegg seems to have a third party seller with the E3 1230V5. The same third party seller has the E3 1245V5 at Amazon for 320 U$D, rather high compared to the 284 U$D Intel MSRP of Intel Ark (But that's the Tray version, Box should be 290$ like the 1246V3 it replaces).Anyone know when the Xeon E3s will be available is the US? And the new C232 chipset mother lads by Gigabyte? Want to try the combination but have been unable to find them anywhere.
Which TSMC is that 16FF or 16FF+?For your comparing pleasure:
SRAM cell size comparison
Company / regular density / high density
Intel 22nm = 0.108µm² / 0.092µm²
TSMC 16nm = 0.07µm² (high density)
FF/FF+ have identical feature sizes/SRAM sizes. The main difference between 16FF and 16FF+ is performance/transistor engineering.Which TSMC is that 16FF or 16FF+?
Thank for the info!
Can you confirm if this is right?FF/FF+ have identical feature sizes/SRAM sizes. The main difference between 16FF and 16FF+ is performance/transistor engineering.
90*64 for TSMC.Can you confirm if this is right?
http://xtreview.com/images/6deformation.jpg
Shouldn't it be 80*64 for TSMC?
EDIT: If anyone wants to make a graph with time on x-axis en size log plot on y-axis.
My understanding is the following:What are the differences between Intel's Speedshift and AMD's AVFS?
Thanks. I'm checking AMD's patents. I remember seeing a related diagram there.My understanding is the following:
They complement each other.
- Speedshift allows the CPU to make quick large jumps between frequency states in order to maximize efficiency in burst load scenarios. (keep CPU in low power states as much as possible)
- AVFS allows the CPU to make extremely fast minute adjustments to it's frequency in order to maximize efficiency under sustained load scenarios. (keep operating voltage as low as possible)
Is it normal to have such a time spread between different models coming out? 65W GT4e not for another 13-15 months? Wonder when the 35W will come out.![]()
LGA 65W Skylake-S with GT4e Iris Pro iGPU lives. 35W version under evaluation.
Looks like desktop LGA Iris Pro will lag one generation behind regular GT2 SKUs. Do note that BGA Skylake GT4e is expectec to arrive a lot sooner though, probably Q1-2016 (mobile and Xeon E3 v5).Is it normal to have such a time spread between different models coming out? 65W GT4e not for another 13-15 months? Wonder when the 35W will come out.
Thanks mikk, nice improvement. Any idea about Kaby Lake's iGPU specs yet?mikk said:Surface Pro 4 with a Core m3-6Y30: http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Mi....154335.0.html
For comparion here is SKL-U:
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-De....153562.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-HP....153774.0.html
BDW-U:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-As....135831.0.html
Bioshock Infinite runs faster with a much lower TDP.
EDRAM isn't top of the line anymore. Its essentially hitting i5 mainstream.Problem is, the e-dram only comes on top of the line chip in a very expensive platform. Now if they would make it standard across the line, I would be impressed.
Take a look at the bar graph immediately above - see the 3DMark11 Performance score for Surface Pro 4 (1584)? That is SKL U GT2....That would make skylake-U GT2 about 30% slower than Carizzo? ...
Intel has done a good job improving its iGPUs. I know you work on the Intel GPU team, so props to the folks on the team. Can't wait to see what's in the pipe for Gen 9.5 and Gen. 10 GPUs -- and beyond.Take a look at the bar graph immediately above - see the 3DMark11 Performance score for Surface Pro 4 (1584)? That is SKL U GT2.
So ~1600 for SKL GT2 vs ~2000 for Carizzo FX8800P 15W in the table (SKL GT2 20% slower) and SKL GT2 on par with the A10-8600P Carrizo 15W.
Now consider that SKL GT2 = 24EUs = ~192 sp (Intel EUs are SIMD8). The Carrizo FX8800P is 512sp and the A10-8600P is 384 sp.
I would say the perf/SP for SKL GT2 is quite good - it is likely either TDP limited (turbo up on narrow design hits P ~ f*v^2; f~v in turbo regime; P ~ v^3 ... therefore, design which is narrow but fast can get decent perf but isn't as efficient as running wide and slow) OR else frequency limited (hitting gpu Fmax).
Given the scaling of SKL GT3e (48 EU = 384sp), where it can run wider but slower, the perf/watt and perf/sp for SKL gpus actually looks really good.
But still, Skylake is on 14nm and carizzo is 28nm. So in a TDP limited scenario, seems like intel should be able to pull ahead without having to resort to edram. OTOH, we dont really know the true power consumption of either, and AMD reference platforms generally perform quite well compared to real world devices.Take a look at the bar graph immediately above - see the 3DMark11 Performance score for Surface Pro 4 (1584)? That is SKL U GT2.
So ~1600 for SKL GT2 vs ~2000 for Carizzo FX8800P 15W in the table (SKL GT2 20% slower) and SKL GT2 on par with the A10-8600P Carrizo 15W.
Now consider that SKL GT2 = 24EUs = ~192 sp (Intel EUs are SIMD8). The Carrizo FX8800P is 512sp and the A10-8600P is 384 sp.
I would say the perf/SP for SKL GT2 is quite good - it is likely either TDP limited (turbo up on narrow design hits P ~ f*v^2; f~v in turbo regime; P ~ v^3 ... therefore, design which is narrow but fast can get decent perf but isn't as efficient as running wide and slow) OR else frequency limited (hitting gpu Fmax).
Given the scaling of SKL GT3e (48 EU = 384sp), where it can run wider but slower, the perf/watt and perf/sp for SKL gpus actually looks really good.