Intel Skylake / Kaby Lake

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More play time in the Microsoft store today. This time I messed with the Surface Pro 4. As a 3 user, the device is noticeably thinner. The display model had the same processer as the display Surface Book, the i5-6300u.

Curious if the form factor would limit the ability of the processor, I ran Google Octane several times on Edge. The scores were all about the same I saw on the Surface Book, just above 29,000. No noticeable throttling after a half dozen runs.

I also tried loading up tabs and running some other tasks, but I couldn't get the fan to come on (at least that I could tell).

Finally, I really wanted to run 3dmark or Gfx Bench, but alas no go. I could only install Windows Store apps; Futuremark removed 3dmark from the store over the summer and Gfx bench would install, but when I attempted to run it would just provide an error "couldn't connect to server."
 

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Almost missed this. For those interested in locked Core i5s, PCLab's review is out (since 5th October).

2.7GHz Core i5 6400 (Skylake) matches 3.3GHz Core i5 4590 (Haswell) gaming performance. Better IPC overcame the 400MHz gap in Turbo clocks.

Overall gaming performance (no OC):

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Stock Core i5 6600 matches 4.5GHz Core i5 3570K and 4.5GHz Core i7 2600K:

Overall gaming performance (OC):

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Full review: http://pclab.pl/art66130.html
 
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The memory limitation is also much less on the lower clocked parts. Hence they excel more. Skylake is a beast.
 

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I see there are like 200 pages to about Skylake. I don't want to go though them all. Just two quick questions.

1 Is there going to be an mainstream 8 core Skylake like the Haswell 5960X?
2 If there is when it is it rumoured to be released?
 
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I see there are like 200 pages to about Skylake. I don't want to go though them all. Just two quick questions.

1 Is there going to be an mainstream 8 core Skylake like the Haswell 5960X?
2 If there is when it is it rumoured to be released?
HEDT version(Skylake-E), 2017. Broadwell-E will come in between.
 

Kippa

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Thanks for the quick response. With Broadwell-E be likely to released this year or next year?
 
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The memory limitation is also much less on the lower clocked parts. Hence they excel more. Skylake is a beast.
Dont you mean another incremental 10% improvement that took 2 generations to get here?
Maybe when Intel deigns to let hex or octa core skylake dribble down to the masses it could be considered a slightly faster beast than Haswell E.
 
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I find always funny that some people suggest AMD 8-core for future proofing over Intel i5 (any version) because of moar coars. See how all those Intel 4 core are smoking AMD 8-core?
 
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I know overall 4670k is faster stock than FX8350, and probably has more overlooking headroom as well, but this test above seems to give unusually poor results for AMD. It is an isolated case for sure, but in the game.gpu latest test of Witcher 3 expansion, stock 8350 was in fact faster than the 4670k.
 

Sweepr

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Not here though.

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Waiting for Core i3 scores.
 
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It trades blows according to game.gpu

i5 faster here: version 1.04

8350 faster here: Hearts of Stone expansion

I am not saying that the 8350 is "future proof", because it is not even as fast in the present. I would say though that it is more competitive in certain newer highly threaded games. It depends on the games you choose I suppose, but those results from PC lab seem to show the 8350 in a particularly bad light.
 

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So Skylake GT4e is coming to desktops after all. :)
 

mikk

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Obviously Intel plans to release two waves of Kabylake. I guess the first Kabylake revision from ww33-46 is a renamed Skylake with slightly higher clocks. Second wave of Kabylake with HDCP 2.2 isn't just a renamed Skylake then.

SKL 4+4e is coming according to this slide, although much later than initially expected and there is no HDCP 2.2.
 

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Yeah . . . in Q4 2016 at the earliest! Yowza.
Better late than never, didn't expect it earlier than late Q3 before this leak. This shows Intel is commited to bringing top notch iGPUs to desktops, despite what naysayers predicted.
 
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Better late than never, didn't expect it earlier than late Q3 before this leak. This shows Intel is commited to bringing top notch iGPUs to desktops, despite what naysayers predicted.
More emphasis on the igp. I can hardly stand the excitement.
 

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