Intel says Ivy Bridge delays are due to process, not lack of demand

[gramboh]

Kind of mad, another 3 week wait for the desktop parts from the sounds of it. Oh well, not the end of the world for me. Need to get the wife a new Macbook and will not be buying it until they refresh with IB mobile though.

 

[Lonyo]

Which is a very expensive way to conduct business and would cause a manufacturing company to make less money, not more.

The holy grail of manufacturing is fully utilized lines, not factories sitting idle.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/...ufacturing_as_Opportunity_for_the_Future.html

Hi.

 

[Fjodor2001]

Kind of mad, another 3 week wait for the desktop parts from the sounds of it. Oh well, not the end of the world for me. Need to get the wife a new Macbook and will not be buying it until they refresh with IB mobile though.

Are the Core i5/i7 Desktop Ivy Bridge CPUs really delayed? Where has that been stated? See my previous post:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33063455&postcount=47

 

[Nemesis 1]

It only matters to me if the High end NV gpu is out befor IVB as I going sli on the top end midrange cpu. 3770. So if IVB comes out first I still wait on NV . I have good computers so no rush.

 

[Idontcare]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/...ufacturing_as_Opportunity_for_the_Future.html

Hi.

Since Itanium is basically built for HP to resell, I could see this being the future for Itanium.

They sell the design rights for Itanium to HP after Kittson, HP becomes responsible for continuing the design (if they desire) and Intel maintains a foundry contract for it.

The $$$ in big-iron is in the software and support/service contracts, its not in the hardware. It makes no sense for Intel to compete with IBM and Oracle by proxy through HP, they are leaving the richest part of that market to HP.

Unless Intel wants to get into software and service like Oracle and IBM, it makes no sense for them to continue doing the hard part, and low margin part, for HP.

 

[IlllI]

i've read on techpowerup that the new desktop motherboards are suppose to be shipping in april. so if that is true then it would seem strange to delay desktop cpus by may or june.

 

[Lonyo]

i've read on techpowerup that the new desktop motherboards are suppose to be shipping in april. so if that is true then it would seem strange to delay desktop cpus by may or june.

The motherboards support SandyBridge as well. No reason for mobo manufacturers to hurt with stocks for no reason.

 

[IlllI]

why release a 'new and improved' motherboard without the new and improved processor that won't be sold for another few months? They could easily keep selling the older ones.

 

[piesquared]

Well I see the majority of this board is trying to gloss over yet another intel slip as being 'tactical'. lol The hilarity continues. To the poster claiming intel is holding back until AMD shows their hand, perhaps intel is holding back to squeeze out all they can because they've already seen AMD's hand... . Admitting their is a process problem now this late in the game is the only way to spin it.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Ivy Bridge for laptops looks interesting. For desktops....meh.

Yup, my i7 860 is still running hard. My laptop however could use a lot more power for less energy.

 

[Lonyo]

why release a 'new and improved' motherboard without the new and improved processor that won't be sold for another few months? They could easily keep selling the older ones.

Or they could release new ones at a higher price with their premium features, and make more money, assuming they don't have too much old stock left..

 

[gramboh]

Are the Core i5/i7 Desktop Ivy Bridge CPUs really delayed? Where has that been stated? See my previous post:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33063455&postcount=47

It's a rumour site, but then again everything IB related is speculation at this point:

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-s-revised-ivy-bridge-launch-schedule-revealed/15043.html

April 29 for the desktop quad core CPUs, but the Z77 motherboards might launch April 9.

 

[JimmiG]

This is AMD's big chance

Yeah, they now have three more weeks to release an FX CPU at 4.8 GHz stock or increase the IPC by 30-50%.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Nearly 2yrs. That is what is disconcerting about the prospects of 22nm health. When they made their similar press release about 22nm it was notably lacking any indication of defect density management.

Ya I looked at date of article. So you believe intel should have announced 2 years ago that tri gate was being released. You may be right . But it is odd the position your taking . Considering the position you took on AMD BD hype.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Well I see the majority of this board is trying to gloss over yet another intel slip as being 'tactical'. lol The hilarity continues. To the poster claiming intel is holding back until AMD shows their hand, perhaps intel is holding back to squeeze out all they can because they've already seen AMD's hand... . Admitting their is a process problem now this late in the game is the only way to spin it.

Well just say who your adderessing . Intel had already announced they had process problems back in 2011. If IVB is delayed its Marketing at this stage. Trinity is nothing The CPU is crap period . The graphics aren't all that either. Maybe its better than IVB maybe it isn't . Either way it doesn't matter neither are good enough for real gaming . Old games both will do just fine

 

[exar333]

I want IB-E.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I want IB-E.

Who *doesn't* want IVB-E? Seriously, Intel's gotta start pushing out the server/high end chips faster!

 

[Idontcare]

Ya I looked at date of article. So you believe intel should have announced 2 years ago that tri gate was being released. You may be right . But it is odd the position your taking . Considering the position you took on AMD BD hype.

I don't follow your last two sentences. If you mean for me to understand what you are saying there then you will need to expand on that a little more clearly.

But the first part, yes, the lack of flaunting their defect density management on 22nm after having done it for both 45nm and 32nm is telling. That we have a delay now which Intel execs are stating is due to process is telling.

 

[Abwx]

An interessant article by HPL and AMD engineers about defect density
optimization maths tools...

Great to see such talentuous women in high tech industry,
sure that they will bring revolutionnary ideas in a foreseable future...

http://www.micromagazine.com/archive/00/01/segal.html

 

[IntelUser2000]

But the first part, yes, the lack of flaunting their defect density management on 22nm after having done it for both 45nm and 32nm is telling. That we have a delay now which Intel execs are stating is due to process is telling.

Yes, I wonder whether they will show full details at all this year. IMO they should have let down on the 22nm hype and let the product speak for itself. Also their comment about being Tick+ because of graphics when preliminary results are showing its no different than Clarkdale's advancements.

Recent leaks are showing the top end 17W part has 100MHz lowered Turbo clocks. Though minor, its a negative.