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Intel renames its new mobile chips and its Pentium 4 SDRAM chipset (and pricing info)

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<< Taiwanese mainboard manufacturers reveal that Intel first 0.13 micron Tualatin is released to it's OEM customers from June 2001. As Intel targets Tualatin for the notebook market and Pentium 4 as the successor for desktop PCs, mainboard companies will accept Tualatin board orders before manufacturing it.

In June, Intel will officially introduce Tualatin for notebook. The lowest speed shall be 1Ghz. Tualatin for notebook will also be renamed as Mobile Intel Pentium III Processor-M head-on with AMD Athlon 4. Brookdale-M will also be renamed as 845MP.

Tualatin was previously scheduled for May 2001 but it was delayed. According to the Intel roadmaps, Tualatin will be in mass production in Q3 2001. Manufacturers indicate that they are ready but due to the fact that Tualatin is faster than Socket 423 P4, and there might be fight and confusion between P4 and Tualatin, they will delay it. Thus, Tualatin price will be higher than Pentium 4.

The mainboard manufacturers finds that Tualatin would be a transient product. Pentium 4 is still the mainstream product for the next half year. They will manufacture small amounts and will adjust it based on market requirements.

According to Intel, Tualatin (1000 pcs) costs

1.13G - USD 268
1.2G - USD 294

Notebook versions

1G - USD 401
1.13G - USD 637 >>

 
That sure tells alot about the quality of the P4 desktop chips, doesn't it?

Gah, must we always hate Intel?

Their marketing never makes sense! They brand one product as being the latest and greatest, then revise an older product and release it at higher cost and higher performance.

WTsh1t?!?
 
1.2 GHZ P3 > 1.7 GHZ P4 lols.


At least they have something better than a P4 to compete with the TBIRDs 🙂

Manufacturers indicate that they are ready but due to the fact that Tualatin is faster than Socket 423 P4, and there might be fight and confusion between P4 and Tualatin, they will delay it. Thus, Tualatin price will be higher than Pentium 4.
 
Sure would be a perfect time to dump the P4 line if the Taulitan's performance is so high. The P4's cost to manufacture is much higher I am assuming.

The P4 will make a resurgence when PC1066 and PC1200 hit the scene.
 
Ok, so Intel &quot;dumps&quot; the P4's. That *might* work today. But what about in the near future?

C'mon MadRat, don't be so short sighted. You may think the P4 is a failure (why, I'm not sure.) But some people thought the intial Pentiums were a failure. And that the Pentium-Pro was a failure.
 


<< Sure would be a perfect time to dump the P4 line if the Taulitan's performance is so high. The P4's cost to manufacture is much higher I am assuming. >>





<< 1.2 GHZ P3 > 1.7 GHZ P4 lols. >>




Yup. Lots of assumptions bein thrown around here. P3 is @ the end of its bright &amp; shiny career. P4's bright &amp; shiny career has just begun. And no, there isn't a Tualitan based part on the PLANET that out performs a P4 1.7 sorry 🙂
 
P4 is a good chip.

It's unfortunate that the PIII 1.13 GHz Tualatin is going to be so expensive, esp. considering that the PIII 1 GHz Coppermine is now $185, and the P4 1.4 GHz is 230 right now. If the Tualatin prices truly will be that high, I don't really see the point in the desktop market.

Looks good for notebooks though.
 
When I say &quot;dump&quot; I really don't mean to drop it altogether.

Its all about timing. If they can throw a Taulitan at the same mHz/gHz at AMD then they are better off in head to head comparisons. They can afford to delay heavy manufacturing of the P4 family until they can move to 130nm.

The current 180nm manufacturing capacity could target:

1. P4 1.5-1.7gHz (both consumer and Xeon*) as the high end
2. P!!!-Coppermine <1gHz as the lowend

The 130nm manufacturing should target:

1. Mobile Taulitan (256k L2 cache)
2. P4 Xeon
3. Desktop 1.0-1.4gHz Taulitan (512k L2 cache)

The Celeron family could disappear altogether. All 180nm P4's below 1.5gHz should be dropped to draw a distinction between Taulitan and P4 speeds. The P4 should be compared only to Coppermine/Celeron, and the Taulitan to Athlon-Duron/Thunderbirds, to avoid any direct comparisons to AMD's Athlon-Palomino/MP. 😉

If I was the evil &quot;dictator of marketing&quot; then those would be my choices. Every company has some crafty devil making these choices. I'm not sure Intel's marketing director has been agressive enough lately - the P4 should be more popular if he/she was doing their job!

Edit: (AND) I'd never (ever) put my brand new Taulitan as a P!!!M brand. They are pacing the P!!! name against the AMD Athlon4. The latter sounds more advanced just by the name.

*only until 130nm P4 Xeon reaches maturity
 


<< P3 is @ the end of its bright &amp; shiny career. P4's bright &amp; shiny career has just begun. And no, there isn't a Tualitan based part on the PLANET that out performs a P4 1.7 sorry 🙂 >>



But at least if you buy a Tualitan, you won't have to give RAMBUS a single, freakin' dime!
 


<< All 250nm P4's below 1.5gHz should be dropped to draw a distinction between Taulitan and P4 speeds. >>



For the first time since I can remember, Madrat &amp; I concur. P4 1.3 &amp; 1.4 parts should be scrapped.
 
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