Intel Readies Earlier Rollout of 3.0 Ghz Pentium 4

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zippy

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Wow. AMD better hurry up.

However, I am so happy I'll be away for 2 weeks this summer...if I wasn't going to be away that long, I would have gotten a P4 rig this summer for the low heat output and therefore low noise output, but I put it off till fall - I'll save so much money. Score. :)

NOTE: not upgrading for more performance, so it doesn't matter that I didn't change to a P4 over the summer
 
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Supposedly a 2.6 Ghz is to come out at the same time as the 2.8 Ghz, and during the 3rd week of August (rumor). Maybe even sooner.. now that the new chips have been widely announced (Cnet/Yahoo) instead of just fan speculation sites, some people are gonna hold off on buying.

This means existing P4s should generally drop about 1.5 to 2 notches. The 2.26 (now $240) should be just over $150 OEM, where the 1.9 Ghz is selling for now. Maybe $180 at worse case.

AMD better get on the stick quick otherwise they'll be giving Athlons away. Or maybe Intel knows AMD has solved their .13 process problems and is going to rapidly release 2300+, 2400+ processors imminently?
 
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I think Intel is rushing their 3GHz flagship in order to keep the performance crown when the Hammer debuts. By the time it hits the shelves, Intel will already have smth like 3.5GHz that will be if not faster, at least on par.

And, of course, it's very good b/c it promises a significant price cut on all the present P4 models.
 
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RaynorWolfcastle

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Originally posted by: Booster
I think Intel is rushing their 3GHz flagship in order to keep the performance crown when the Hammer debuts. By the time it hits the shelves, Intel will already have smth like 3.5GHz that will be if not faster, at least on par.

And, of course, it's very good b/c it promises a significant price cut on all the present P4 models.
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Either way, Intel is majorly turning up the heat on AMD to release the ClawHammer Athlon ASAP. If AMD doesn't release ClawHammer in significant quantities by this fall, it will get eaten alive by Intel with respect to the back-to-school computer purchases. Actually the situation is not unlike the way ATI is turning up the heat on Nvidia :)

-Ice
 
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Budman

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How far can the .13 Northwood actualy go ? 3.5ghz ? 4ghz ?

With cpus getting faster every year it wont be long till we have 10ghz chips.:Q
 
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From that 'roadmap' it seems to not mention how far NW ill go by the mid next year. It says a 3.06 with HT at this years end. it seems hard to believe that the 1st half of next year will only producs 200mhz jump.. My estimates tell me that NW will go to about 3.4-5 and then Prescoot at 3.2 first then speed up as time give way.

man.. i make CPU makig sounds so simple :p
 
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majewski9

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umm I dont think even a 3ghz p4 can topple even the first hammer. The first hammer has a model rating of 3400+! According to AMD that is based off the AthlonXP but we all know its the p4 their basing it on. Also AMD is very generous on their modeling scheme. Another point is that the Hammer will be much more scalable than the K7's.

Also a Barton running at 2.2 ghz should be able to keep up with a 3 ghz p4 in my opinion.
 
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Mr.IncrediblyBored

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Originally posted by: majewski9
umm I dont think even a 3ghz p4 can topple even the first hammer. The first hammer has a model rating of 3400+! According to AMD that is based off the AthlonXP but we all know its the p4 their basing it on. Also AMD is very generous on their modeling scheme. Another point is that the Hammer will be much more scalable than the K7's.
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A 3400+ model rating?! Wow, I'll take 10!

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The proof is in the pudding.
 
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ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: majewski9
umm I dont think even a 3ghz p4 can topple even the first hammer. The first hammer has a model rating of 3400+! According to AMD that is based off the AthlonXP but we all know its the p4 their basing it on. Also AMD is very generous on their modeling scheme. Another point is that the Hammer will be much more scalable than the K7's.

Also a Barton running at 2.2 ghz should be able to keep up with a 3 ghz p4 in my opinion.
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LOL! I guess we'll have to wait and see now won't we????????
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As for "Barton"..................does anyone actually have any HARD proof except roadmaps which can change at the drop of a hat when or if it will ever be a reallity???? A Hard date or proof of release and production perhaps? There seems to be as many rumors saying it won't become reallity as there are that say there will and that is in AMD forums.................I'd like to see it, but, from what I hear it all depends on the developement of "Hammer". In other words, if we see Barton by late Fall as predicted, chances are we won't see any "Hammers" until Q1 or Q2 '03...................
 
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We shall see majewski9. If the Hammer is launched at 2GHz with 512k L2 Cache, then It should do quite well against a 3GHz Northwood. A Barton slightly clocked higher would liekly even challenge it. Now, it is up in the air what speed CH will be launched at. It really is all going to fall on how quicly AMD's .13um OSI process matures. I do thik that it is ma real possibility that we could see it launched at only current XP speeds (ie 1.8GHz). Only time will tell. Regardless, we will see.
 
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Fun Guy

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Originally posted by: majewski9
umm I dont think even a 3ghz p4 can topple even the first hammer. The first hammer has a model rating of 3400+! According to AMD that is based off the AthlonXP but we all know its the p4 their basing it on. Also AMD is very generous on their modeling scheme. Another point is that the Hammer will be much more scalable than the K7's.

Also a Barton running at 2.2 ghz should be able to keep up with a 3 ghz p4 in my opinion.
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AMD can put anything on paper they want. I will wait to see before I make any judgements or claims.

Not to say I don't wish AMD well. AMD is one of the main reasons I can get a 1.6Ghz processor (that runs at 2.4Ghz) for $130. Thank you, AMD.

And that's also not to say that I wouldn't buy an AMD processor again. I did buy a K6-2 way back when and it worked fine. I might have also bought one of the initial iterations of their latest processor if it hadn't taken a five billion watt power supply and ten extra case fans to run properly (exaggerating a little bit, but not much).

I really hope AMD delivers and the once again there is choice in the marketplace. However, the short-term path to me right now looks like P4 + DDR, 3Ghz+.
 
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Originally posted by: Fun Guy
Originally posted by: majewski9
umm I dont think even a 3ghz p4 can topple even the first hammer. The first hammer has a model rating of 3400+! According to AMD that is based off the AthlonXP but we all know its the p4 their basing it on. Also AMD is very generous on their modeling scheme. Another point is that the Hammer will be much more scalable than the K7's.

Also a Barton running at 2.2 ghz should be able to keep up with a 3 ghz p4 in my opinion.
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AMD can put anything on paper they want. I will wait to see before I make any judgements or claims.

Not to say I don't wish AMD well. AMD is one of the main reasons I can get a 1.6Ghz processor (that runs at 2.4Ghz) for $130. Thank you, AMD.

And that's also not to say that I wouldn't buy an AMD processor again. I did buy a K6-2 way back when and it worked fine. I might have also bought one of the initial iterations of their latest processor if it hadn't taken a five billion watt power supply and ten extra case fans to run properly (exaggerating a little bit, but not much).

I really hope AMD delivers and the once again there is choice in the marketplace. However, the short-term path to me right now looks like P4 + DDR, 3Ghz+.
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ddr? u giving up on rambus?
 
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Fun Guy

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I'm not giving up on anything. I'll take the best combination on the market at the time I'm buying.

Ultimately, however, it's not whether I give up, it's whether everyone else (i.e. chipset makers) gives up on RDRAM.
 
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