Intel Rapid Start Technology and CPU Support

[Attic]

From what I can tell Rapid Start is limited to i3/i5/i7 2nd 3rd or 4th gen Intel CPU's, but i'm looking for more confirmation. I find it a bit odd that the feature would be left off of the new Intel Pentium's, but that's kind of what i'm being led to believe through google searches.

I've got an intel Haswell G3258 and the Rapid Start Driver fails to run citing lack of min requirements for my system, i'm trying to pin down if this is due to lack of CPU support or not.



Edit: Was BIOS setting,.... I had Rapid Start.... Disabled.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Its a chipset feature, not a CPU feature.

What board are you using?

The requirement should simply be:
SSD
BIOS
Chipset with support

Someone posted this on another forum as solution that worked for people:

0 Create a partition of a little more than the size of your RAM size on SSD drive. Section on the HDD does not make sense to use.
1 Load windows, Win + R, is typed "cmd" and go to the console and type "DISKPART"
2 "list disk"
3 see what drive you have SSD (in my case it is Disk 0)
4 "sel disk 0"
5 "sel part 2" (this command we choose partition what to be used for hibernation, partition size should be a little more of your RAM size)
6. "SET ID = 84 OVERRIDE" (this command, we just establish that this section will be used for hibernation, and not otherwise, it was after this command you subsequently install the rapid start drivers without problems)
7 "exit"
8 Set RST driver
9 be happy

 

[Attic]

Its a chipset feature, not a CPU feature.

What board are you using?

The requirement should simply be:
SSD
BIOS
Chipset with support

Someone posted this on another forum as solution that worked for people:

Edit: Ok so turns out i'm a goober, odds were decent. BIOS had "Rapid Start Technology" Disabled. Flipped that on and everything works like you'd expect. That'd being said with a wall power meter i'm not seeing a large difference in power use, both sleep and the Rapid Start Deep Sleep state are <2watts. Rapid Start I have to go hit the power button, with normal sleep I can hit the spacebar to wake up the HTPC.



I've got a Z87 G45 from MSI with SSD and latest BIOS. Everything hardware side should be good to go.

Just muffled around on my laptop to get around the Lenovo limitation of 3 hour wait for Deep Sleep to kick in so I'm likely good good on setup. Ended up deleting and recreating the hibernation partition in that go.

The feature is not something I really need on the desktop, but now the itch is there and i'm starting to lineup the 4590 on special at MC, so I know i'm going too far now! "Oh I should just get the 4590 thinking is setting in", wwhich I definitely don't need but will likely end up with :whiste:

For anyone coming across the thread please note that the Set ID parameter will be dependent on whether your drive is partitioned with MBR or GPT formats. Shown here is for MBR. In disk part you'll know if the drive is MBR or GPT after "list disk" by noting listing under the GPT header.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Its a chipset feature, not a CPU feature.

That's what most people thought about RST (Rapid Storage Technology, Aka SSD caching). You figure, H97 / Z97 supports it, right? So just buy boards with that chipset?

WRONG.

You also MUST have a "Core" CPU to use that feature. No soup for the Pentiums / Celerons of this world. (And I'm not talking about the Atoms, either.)

 

[ShintaiDK]

That's what most people thought about RST (Rapid Storage Technology, Aka SSD caching). You figure, H97 / Z97 supports it, right? So just buy boards with that chipset?

WRONG.

You also MUST have a "Core" CPU to use that feature. No soup for the Pentiums / Celerons of this world. (And I'm not talking about the Atoms, either.)

Got any links to that? because I dont see anyone having issues on Pentium/Celeron. Even B85 supports Rapid Start.

And HM70, the classic chipset with only Celeron and Pentium support supports Rapid Start.
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww.../product-briefs/hm70-mobile-chipset-brief.pdf

 

[VirtualLarry]

Got any links to that? because I dont see anyone having issues on Pentium/Celeron. Even B85 supports Rapid Start.

And HM70, the classic chipset with only Celeron and Pentium support supports Rapid Start.
http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww.../product-briefs/hm70-mobile-chipset-brief.pdf

First of all, I said RST, Rapid Storage Technology, Intel's SSD caching feature. I wasn't talking about Rapid Start.

Second, here's the link. The documention on RST says "Core" CPU.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2408517

 

[ShintaiDK]

But the thread is about rapid start. And rapid storage also works on Celeron/Pentium today.

What you link is Intels Smart Response Technology. Or SRT if you like.

2. Intel® Rapid Start Technology requires a select Intel® processor, Intel® software and BIOS update, and Intel® Solid-State Drive (Intel® SSD). Depending on system configuration, your results may vary. Contact your system manufacturer for more information.
3. Intel® Smart Response Technology requires a Intel® Core&#8482; processor, select Intel® chipset, Intel® Rapid Storage Technology software version 12.5 or higher, and a solid-state hybrid drive reporting at least 16 GB capacity and supporting SATA-I/O hybrid information feature. Depending on system configuration, your results may vary. Contact your system manufacturer for more information.

 

[Attic]

A lot of this intel specific feature for RST SRT RST* makes most sense in HDD plus SSD environment.

Going off SSD for whole build makes some of this stuff obsolete from what I can tell.


Rapid Start Technology for example (not to be confused with Rapid Storage Technology, though it is and I am/have been) works mainly by ensuring the hibernate type sleep is not done through storing to HDD but rather to SSD. If your system is SSD then your .hib file is on SSD anyways.


So for HDD plus SSD a lot of this Intel RST RST SRT makes sense, but I think with SSD build it's not such a great feature set. Still want the RST Drivers regardless though (rapid storage technology drivers not rapid start technology drivers).


I guess one other thing to pickup while on topic is that if you are creating the hidden hibernation file for RST (rapid start technology) then you can turn hibernation off/never so you don't slap a large .hib file on your main C drive in addition to grabbing 8-16gb's (meet or exceed RAM amount) of your SSD space for RST.

 

[xaml]

I had a rather wet dream not long ago, but no not in that sense. There was this giant hovering instance asking me... "would you like some arrest tea with your arrest tea, arrestee?"
This incredible experience was a promise which would eventually be fulfilled.
Fast foward three years since hibernating this thread using the very technologies described therein, and you have this situation:
1. Intel Rapid Start Technology has not been updated for four years now, why, because it has been discontinued.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/21612/Intel-Rapid-Start-Technology
2. Intel Rapid Storage Technology is still being maintained.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/do...d-Storage-Technology-Intel-RST-?product=64572
However there are limitations. My ultrabook of four years is not compatible anymore with the latest available version, which at this time is 15.8.1.1007. The last version that I am able to use is 12.8.2.1000. And I went through the damn updates in between. The machine works great. As it should, with its carbon fiber and its having been carved from a single aluminim block. If you leave away that it seems to be falling apart somewhat. Not only are there indications that its soldered memory has become faulty by the likes of the repeatedly failed Windows The Fall of Creators Fall Creators Update installation process and Mimimitest, sorry I mean Memtest, with the battery now apparently also having experienced permanent failure, three or so subtly lighter spots that I noticed on the display some time ago and abrasions on the carbon fiber keyboard cover that first seemed like leftover smudge despite religious cleaning. Four years, is that not more or less the median for relationship lifetime expectancies? There must be a greater meaning to all of this. Like, who needs sustainability anyway?