Intel prices to Drop?

imported_gk

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I heard that Intel is going to launch its Core 2 Duo processor at the end of this month (27th July to be precise) and that this would lead to a massive price drop for the Pentium D processors. Is this true?

I am going to buy a PC probably in a month, so I was wondering whether I should wait and watch. And do you recommend Pentium D 820 for my new box (I have heard its not that good). I would like to have a good processor but have budget constraints also.

And can somebody from India tell whats the current price for Pentium D series here?
 

AssistantPimp

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I'm thinking of conroe...give me a link of a page were will you buy and i'll try to do best configuration for 650$...ok?!
 

akshayt

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C2D will start around 180-200$ in USA and in India it should be around Rs.10000-12000 or so.
 

rmed64

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Pentium D prices are getting slashed very soon.

The 805 is going down to $93 by the end of this month
The Presler 930 Pentium D is going to be $133
The new conroe E6300 is going to be $183 msrp
 

rmed64

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They should be releasing the 915 by the end of this month as well for $113

2.8Ghz 800fsb 2x2MB L2 95W TDP

Mainly lower power usage than the original preslers
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: rmed64
They should be releasing the 915 by the end of this month as well for $113

2.8Ghz 800fsb 2x2MB L2 95W TDP

Mainly lower power usage than the original preslers

Not quite the Pentium D 915 will be coming in 133US, 113US price belongs to the Pentium D 820.
 

coldpower27

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Here are the relevant Intel processor you should consider.

Pentium 4 524 64US, Pentium 4 531 74US, Pentium 4 541 84US

Pentium D 805 93US, Pentium D 820 113US

Pentium D 915 133US, Pentium D 945 163US

Core 2 Duo E6300 183US, Core 2 Duo E6400 224US, Core 2 Duo E6600 316US, Core 2 Duo E6700 530US
 

imported_gk

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I am thinking of going for Pentium D820. I guess that fits my budget. What do you think?

I am not very sure of this Double cores, but D820 at 2.80 GHz with dual core should effectively deliver performance at double the clock-speed. Can I compare it with a hypothetical 5 GHz processor in terms of performance? I have read that two cores provide benefits for handling different threads from different processes, different threads of same process, etc. etc. I guess this should result in ALMOST double performance. Am I thinking in the right direction?
 
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Originally posted by: akshayt
C2D will start around 180-200$ in USA and in India it should be around Rs.10000-12000 or so.

Yeah, a 20% markup for CPUs is pretty typical out here in India.
Better than the GPU market: expect anywhere from a 30-50% markup for GPUs. I remember times when a 6600GT cost the same as a 6800GT (on Newegg).

Hey akshayt, how much did you pay for your X1900XT?

Originally posted by: gk
I guess this should result in ALMOST double performance. Am I thinking in the right direction?

Hmm, nowhere close to 'double' the performance. Gains are very, very dependent on how the software you are using is designed to handle multi-cores. I suggest you dig up benchmarks from Google for the exact software you hope to increase your performance in.

Dual-core will make your overall desktop experience improve: running multiple CPU-intensive apps simultaneously will be buttery without random hiccups. SMP-aware games (Quake 4 comes to mind) and video-editing-encoding apps will see good gains but not exactly double. And comparing dual-core 2.8 GHz to single-core 5.6GHz is not correct.
 

harpoon84

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I personally reckon if you're going to go under the $150 budget you're better off with AMD than a P4.

I've read AMD will release an X2 3600+ soon and that will probably be better than most of the low end P-D offerings out there.

If you're a beginner to performance computing then a single core A64 would be more than enough. A cheap 3200+ will overclock to 2.5 - 3GHz no problem and will be a stellar performer in single threaded applications, which to this point are what the majority of desktop users are still using.
 

betasub

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If heat/cooling is a issue for the OP, then I'd recommended avoiding the P-D 800 series processors, which can get very hot and are forced to throttle back. P-D 900 series are cooler dual cores (as are Althon 64 X2), but the single core Athlon 64 mentioned by harpoon84 have an even lower heat output.
 

imported_gk

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Don't most of the applications out here take the advantage of Dual Cores? And isn't it more of Operating system to take advantage of the Dual cores? I am very confused regarding this Dual core technology.

hmmm... i think an article that explains practical implications of Dual core processor would help clarify my doubts...
 

Bobthelost

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Originally posted by: gk
Don't most of the applications out here take the advantage of Dual Cores? And isn't it more of Operating system to take advantage of the Dual cores? I am very confused regarding this Dual core technology.

hmmm... i think an article that explains practical implications of Dual core processor would help clarify my doubts...

No, most things don't use multiple cores. Stick dual core explained into google, the wikipedia article isnt bad either.
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: gk
Don't most of the applications out here take the advantage of Dual Cores? And isn't it more of Operating system to take advantage of the Dual cores? I am very confused regarding this Dual core technology.

hmmm... i think an article that explains practical implications of Dual core processor would help clarify my doubts...

Think of it this way.

Say you have a set of tasks that are normally done by one person. This person can only effectively do one thing at a time, but can move back and forth between different tasks if needed. But they are only ever working on one thing at any given point in time.

Now you bring in another person. This person is, magically, identical to the first.

Certain tasks can be split up between these two people. If you need a bunch of pieces of paper cut in half, you could just divide the stack in half and give half to each person. They would be about twice as efficient as having just one person do it (there would be some extra time separating the stacks of paper and reassembling them afterward). Or if you had two totally different jobs that needed to be done, you could give one to each and the jobs would each be done in about the same time as having one person, alone, do just that job. One cuts paper while the other assembles bicycles.

But some tasks can't be split up so easily. If the task is "paint a portrait", having two people won't get it done in half the time (though it may be faster than just one person alone). If it's "assemble a bicycle", then again two heads are better than one but not twice as good as one.

Software works similarly. Some applications take a lot of benefit from having an extra core around. Some take none. Some are in between. If two applications are run at the same time, having an extra core means they don't have to fight for resources as much.
 

imported_gk

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Ok.. i get it a bit...

App A (is not dual core aware)
App B (dual core aware)
That means App A (that is not dual core aware) will NOT run faster on a dual core than on a single core...
App B will run faster (but not exactly 2 times) on a dual core processor...
App A and App C (another non-aware app) running on a dual core will provide better experience, because app A might be running on core 1 and App C on core 2..... but will not run faster...

Is my understanding right?
 

Nightmare225

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Congratulations. I, myslef would somehow get a Core Duo 2 or AMD X2, and I wouldn't even consider the Pentium D's, Netburst is a dead, ugly beast. ;)