Intel Pentium D 9xx vs 8xx series

[L00ker]

So I am looking at two processors (for a new bulid) both are the dual core Pentium D series, and was wondering if anyone has seen any reviews of the 9xx series against the 8xx series, basically most 920's are ~180 right now and the 820's are ~120 and at the same clock speed the only difference is the cache, and I am curious as to wether or not the additional cache really makes a 'real-world' difference? The rest of my build is as follows:

Sunbeam Trio case (After working with it I am not impressed, it's a pretty cheap case)
Kingwin 520W Modular supply (Pretty nice IMO)
Thermaltake Bigwater 735 single rad watercooled setup
Asus P5ND SLI Motherboard
eVGA 7600 GT KO Video

Planning on:
3.2GHz Pentium D processor (820 or 920?)
2 GB DDR2 667MHz Ram (Not sure which brand yet) for ~$200 (Any recommendations welcome)

WD Raptor 74GB 10k Boot/Windows Disk
2x Seagate 7200.10 16mb buffer 250gb SATA-II (3gbit) Raid 0 for data/apps etc
2x NEC 3550A DVD Writer/Readers

I think that pretty much covers it... any suggestions?

 

[akshayt]

Get C2D instead. Or X2 or thirdly D 9xx, no D 8xx

 

[stevty2889]

The 8xx series runs very hot, there is absolutly no reason to get an 8xx. But akshayt is right, Core 2 duo is the best CPU's out there now, athough still tough to come by. The X2 3800+ is now around $150, and performs similar to a Pentium-D 950. Netburst is dead.

 

[L00ker]

Well I am somewhat of an intel fanboy (have had some bad experiences with older AMD procs in the XP series) and have already purchased an intel nforce4 based motherboard so swapping over to an AMD based setup isn't my idea of a reasonable thing to do (sorry not being a jerk or anything) and I am not looking to spend $300 and up for a CPU but I just found out that the P5ND2 only supports 8xx series... and I really thought it supported the 9xx series.... Also as far as heat, I am watercooling so that shouldn't be that much of a problem right???

 

[hardwareking]

core 2 duo won't work on the mobo u pruchased so u will have to choose one of the 8xx cpus.
The cheapest one is the pentium d 805.Sub $100 dual core($90 approx).
And it shighly overclockable provided u have a good after market cooler.Since u are liquid cooling it should be no problem.But since u are gonna spend $ 300 i'd go with one of the higehr 8xx models like the 840.
Or option 2 is returning the motherboard u bought and buying a $100 core 2 duo supporting mothebroard and a core 2 duo E6300.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115005-Slightly overpriced right now but it should drop in a while.
and one of the 2 motherboards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130052-MSI the cheapest of the lot
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121035-Intel manufactured mobo
So total would come to about-$330 with MSI and $350 with MSI.(i'd go with the MSI if i were u)
That would be better than any of the pentium d setups.
Ofcourse its down to u in the end.Good luck to u.

P.S
The core 2 duos consume a lot less power than the pentium chips.And generate less heat.And since u are liquid cooling ti should be prett easy to overclock it to atleast 2.4ghz from the stock speed of 1.6 even with the MSI neo.

 

[L00ker]

Thanks it turns out that I can only run 8xx series CPU's with this board anyways but I got it pretty cheap ~$70 so it will suffice but most of what goes on it DDR2 and PCIx16 could get transferred to a newer board in the future (along with the drives/cooling/power etc) so for now I think I will go with a 820 for ~$100 and overclock the piss out of it since I could easily get the 820 up to the same place as the 840 clock wise and thats probably as good as it is gonna get on this mobo...

 

[LittleNemoNES]

But akshayt is right

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[DrMrLordX]

I'd return the board l00ker. 8xx Pentium Ds are real heaters that won't give you any kind of real performance compared to Core 2 Duo. You won't get very far past 4 ghz, at best, with an 8xx unless you get a lucky chip, and even then that's nothing particularly wonderful compared to what people are doing with Core 2 Duo these days.

 

[stevty2889]

Just don't get an 820, get an 830 or 840. Most of the NF4 intel boards only support the 820 as a single core, to use both cores you'll need an 830 or 840, not sure about the 805, I would imagine it works since it works fine on my Gigabyte 8N-SLI. My 805 was hitting 57c on water at 3.7ghz, so definatly still quite hot. My 830 was throttling on the stock heatsink at stock speeds, and didn't OC at all, even on water.