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Intel Pentium 4 Class Action Lawsuit $15 for system bought between 11/20/00 - 6/30/02

richierich1212

richierich1212

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I didn't see a thread. Heads up guys, you may get some cash for any Pentium 4 systems bought between November 20, 2000 and June 30, 2002.

You must have either purchased a new computer equipped with a Pentium 4 processor between November 20, 2000, and December 31, 2001, or purchased a new computer equipped with a first-generation (Willamette) Pentium 4 processor or a Pentium 4 processor at speeds below 2.0 GHz between January 1, 2002, and June 30, 2002.

http://www.intelpentium4litigation.com/
 
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No proof of purchased required, why not? The Lawyers are getting most of the money anyways (as always in these types of cases).
 
I purchased a 1.8GHz Willamette laptop around that time ...
I figure for the hours it'd take to locate the proof of purchase, mail the form, read all the nonsense, etc. I'd lose money.
 
Considering how crappy Williamette's IPC was and then having to use Rambus RAM on top of that, the $15 seems a little low. Miss the days when AMD was so awesome in comparison.
 
So Intel lied on performance numbers back then? They still do as everyone in the industry. This lawsuit is so ridiculous...
 
Intel17 said:
What a frivolous lawsuit.
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Frivolous has a specific legal meaning. That is, the case has no basis in law or in fact. This case clearly has a basis in fact, I don't even think it is up for debate that Intel did some shady things back then.

It is very rare for a truly frivolous case to be filed. Any attorney that did so would be subject to sanctions and could potentially lose his/her license to practice law. A truly frivolous case would be dismissed by the judge very early on in the proceedings.

When the public/the insurance industry behind tort reform says "frivolous", they almost always mean "lawsuit I don't like very much." They usually have no understanding of the legal underpinnings of the suit, thanks in no small part to the media butchering the description of the case. The most obvious example is the McDonald's hot coffee case. That case was severely misunderstood by the public. Google it or watch the documentary "Hot Coffee" for more information.

A lawsuit for 15$ why bother? On principle? Obviously not for monetary gains.
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Largely, yes, on principle. One of the major reasons class action suits exist is so that small wrongs can be addressed in an economical way. In many ways it is more about disgorging wrongful profits and discouraging wrongful behavior than compensating victims.

Imagine if Bank of America stole $1 dollar from each of its customers (if?). Though BofA may make tens of millions of dollars and though we would all agree that what BofA did was wrong, no individual person would be incentivized to go to court over it. It simply wouldn't make economic sense to do so. Class Action suits are an attempt to solve this problem.

Yes, lawyers will receive more in fees than any individual in the class. But the class as a whole receives the vast majority of the proceeds. There are numerous court controls on the fees the attorneys receive in class actions. The court has to approve them. The fees have to based on proven hourly work, not on a straight contingent portion of the recovery. Finally, some states, like Texas, require the attorneys to be compensated in kind with the class. Thus, if the class gets coupons, the attorneys get coupons in lieu of cash.

Rant over.
 
A buddy of mine still has a pentium 4 423 socket based pc he bought about that time. I know he has the original box and everything. Only thing not original about his pc and setup is his hard drive and a add in sound +dial up card.:biggrin:
 
I think that most smart consumers knew that the first gen Pentium 4 processors were lame and avoided them. I didn't get one until the 2.53 GHz Northwood came out.

$15 isn't much to reward those people who overpaid $300 for a processor and then overpaid another $150 for RAMBUS memory.
 
I assume we will get a flood of these class actions in the future.

A proposed settlement has been reached in a class action lawsuit alleging that Intel manipulated the performance benchmark scores for its first-generation Pentium 4 processors and that HP aided and abetted Intel’s allegedly unlawful conduct. Intel and HP deny any liability and all claims of misconduct and Intel contends that the performance benchmarks challenged by Plaintiffs fairly measured the performance of the Pentium 4 processor.
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Benchmark cheating on smartphones for example is something that comes to ones mind. I wonder how much Samsung will have to per per device. Or the 50% faster than Core 2 benchmarks by AMD with Phenom. Not to mention all the rest since this post would be too large for the system to accept.

Very interesting to follow up on.

And looking just on the "HP Hexacore" thread. Its obvious that HP havent learned anything.
 
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Never purchased a Pentium 4. I had an old PIII Celeron 1.2gig, but that computer just kept running till I purchased a Core 2 Duo. Who keeps records about a computer they purchased 20 years ago???
 
Who keeps receipts for something that old? lol God i must have been through at last 20 computer systems since I owned one of those.
 
My previous comment i forgot to mention this was a hp pavilion tower too my buddy has. Thing seems to be built like a tank but he did upgrade to 2gb more RAMBUS for vista cause of software needs.The installation for me was new cause the pattern of the stupid
continuity sticks.

The most criminal thing is that for the price he paid for his 2gb RAMBUS, he could have at the time bought a e6750, a cheap motherboard and 4gb ram. I even told him but for whatever reason he was convinced the extra ram for his current machine would do him fine.
 
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The most criminal thing is that for the price he paid for his 2gb RAMBUS, he could have at the time bought a e6750, a cheap motherboard and 4gb ram. I even told him but for whatever reason he was convinced the extra ram for his current machine would do him fine.
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Yeah, I know those kind of people. They like what they've got. Guess I can't blame them, even if it seems a bit objectively irrational.
 
Abwx said:
It was only for professional HPC softs and this was officialy confirmed by Intel.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2386/11

3.0 Xeon E5472 is about the same speed as a 2.0 Opteron 2350 in LS-Dyna.
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Nope. It was a different case (spec) and AMD pulled the numbers from their own website. A number that slowly grew before launch from 30 to 50%, only to be completely removed when reality struck. A bit like Bulldozer that was also claimed to be 50% faster, tho by the fans and misleading VIPs.
 
ShintaiDK said:
Nope. It was a different case (spec) and AMD pulled the numbers from their own website. A number that slowly grew before launch from 30 to 50%, only to be completely removed when reality struck. A bit like Bulldozer that was also claimed to be 50% faster, tho by the fans and misleading VIPs.
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I wouldn't compare that to BD which was an unmitigated failure even in AMD's own words. Barcelona wasn't such a disaster because it had IMC and HT and didn't rely on an outdated FSB bus like Core Xeons did so even though they were much slower in desktop use it wasn't so in 2P and 4P systems. Especially the latter.
 
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