Intel Pays AMD $1.25 Billion to settle Dispute

[SunSamurai]

A settlement means Intel admits no wrongdoing.

They gave AMD 1.25 billion because they are nice people. :awe:

 

[OCGuy]

Intel fucked themselves over here.

AMD now has a cool 1.25 Billion, they now have the root for the underdog status again. I forsee in a 3~ years AMD overtaking the top CPU spot again unless Intel gets some management that doesnt become lazy as fuck when they are the undisputed ruler of the high-end for a few years.

Life is just a bunch of cycles. (ask any woman)

You obviously dont understand the situation.

AMD had the better chips for a short while, and it didnt matter. AMD sucks at marketing. Everyone remembers the Intel spacesuit or whatever the hell that commercial was in the 90s. I've had that hideous Intel "Lollipop" song stuck in my head for a month.

Who the heck even knows what AMD is other than "computer people" and investors who own the stock?

AMD could make a CPU that shits golden eggs, and they will still lose money.


Not only that, but they are ~2 years behind Intel. Intel is actually slowing up their release schedule because they arent getting any competition at the high end.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

1.25 billion is nothing to Intel. I think the kicker was AMD getting to use some of their stuff for 5 years. I wonder if that agreement means they don't have to pay royalties?

That would be the part to look at.

Yeah, the $ was only part of it. And a minor part at that IMHO.

The cross-license agreement is great for AMD (especially if it gets rid of royalties), and the new set of business practices are going to keep it a level playing field in the "may the best tech win" department.

 

[dennilfloss]

$1.25B is much too low.

Hear. Hear. Though the other stuff might be more important than the money.

 

[yhelothar]

$1.25B to AMD, $6B to Dell to keep AMD off the market.
I could see why it says AMD would get a lot more if this was settled in court.
But on the bright side, there was another $1.5B fined to intel in the EU.

 

[her209]

1.25 billion is nothing to Intel. I think the kicker was AMD getting to use some of their stuff for 5 years. I wonder if that agreement means they don't have to pay royalties?

That would be the part to look at.

What does AMD use of Intel's?

 

[OCGuy]

What does AMD use of Intel's?

/facepalm

 

[her209]

/facepalm

Honestly, what do they use?

 

[OCGuy]

Honestly, what do they use?

x86

 

[IEC]

Honestly, what do they use?

Look up "cross-licensing"

 

[frostedflakes]

Honestly, what do they use?

x86 instruction set is the big one, then there's all the extensions/sub-sets (SSE1, SSE2, etc.). Intel gets to use AMD technologies, like x86-64.

Intel controls the x86 instruction set, which means they basically control the PC market, because that's what it all uses. And they're very stingy with their x86 licenses. Kind of screwed up, but oh well. Isn't the basic x86 instruction set going into public domain soon, though. Like within the next couple years?

 

[yhelothar]

x86

I'm not too familiar with the whole patent system, but doesn't patents expire after 20yrs or so, and becomes free to use by anyone?

 

[ElFenix]

x86

they've had the right to use that since a 1995 arbitration. they have to come up with their own designs, however.

 

[OCGuy]

they've had the right to use that since a 1995 arbitration. they have to come up with their own designs, however.

It is still being licensed.

http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/03/amd-intel-engaged-in-x86-licensing-staredown.ars

 

[0roo0roo]

is what the eu should do when it makes such rulings. but i think they keep the money themselves. greedy f*cks.

 

[Ricochet]

It was under $2 last December.... I thought about it then also... ughhhh

Count me in that group.

 

[DannyLove]

Wow, total BS from Intel's part. AMD deserves more, honestly. How long was Intel strong-arming these company's? We're talking years worth of revenue right?

 

[Locut0s]

You obviously dont understand the situation.

AMD had the better chips for a short while, and it didnt matter. AMD sucks at marketing. Everyone remembers the Intel spacesuit or whatever the hell that commercial was in the 90s. I've had that hideous Intel "Lollipop" song stuck in my head for a month.

Who the heck even knows what AMD is other than "computer people" and investors who own the stock?

AMD could make a CPU that shits golden eggs, and they will still lose money.


Not only that, but they are ~2 years behind Intel. Intel is actually slowing up their release schedule because they arent getting any competition at the high end.

Agreed.

What they should do is invest this money in a HUGE marketing campaign. Hire the best in the industry and plaster ads every-fucking-where. That's about the only thing that would make Intel go "Oh fuck we shouldn't have given them that money". Right now they are saying "Wow we are on top flying high and it only took 1.2 Billion to make that annoying fly go away".

 

[Adrenaline]

What does AMD use of Intel's?

It isn't what they use now it is what they get to use for the next 5 years along with the business practices and what royalties they have to pay that makes this intesting.

 

[13Gigatons]

Since Intel paid Dell $6 billion to keep AMD off the market that's what the penalty should be.