Intel P4 1.6 or XP 1600+....please help me

navir

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i have to decide between a intel 1.6(not a northwood) and a XP 1600+
below are the configurations of both .please tell me which is the better one to go for.both cost almost similar
INTEL
P4 1.6
i850 mobo
128 mb rdram
and all the other usual stuff
AMD
XP 1600+
Via KT266A mobo(DFI AD 70-SC)
128 mb ddr ram
and the rest is same
please help me. thanks in advance


navir
 

Def

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It seems like your AMD rig would be a good bit cheaper, and it would also perform better. If you overclock, I'd estimate the two systems to be about equal, with maybe a small advantage going to the Northwood if you manage to get a really good chip.

That being said, the XP 1700+ is only a few bucks more than the 1600+, so why not save up your pennies and step up to a little bit better performance at stock speeds.
 

AGodspeed

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If money isn't too big an issue, and you're going to be doing some extreme overclocking, then definitely get the 1.6A Northwood Pentium 4 setup. If you're not going to be doing any overclocking, then definitely get the AXP 1600+ setup.

Most 1.6A NW's are able to overclock up to an average of 2.2-2.3GHz stabily while just using a retail hsf. However, it's the luck of the draw really. You could get a 1.6A NW that overclocks to 2.5GHz stabily on a retail hsf, and you could get a 1.6A NW that would overclock to "only" 1.8 or 1.9GHz. It just depends.

The AXP 1600+ (1.4GHz) should average a stable overclock of 1.6GHz on a retail hsf. Again, you might only get 1.5GHz or you might get 1.7 or 1.8GHz even. Same situation as above, although the Intel NW's are much easier to overclock with retail hsf's (i.e. without extreme cooling) as compared to the AXP's.

Just so you know, the AXP 1600+ setup would be about $50 cheaper than the 1.6A setup (as per pricewatch). If you think it's worth the extra $50 to go with the 1.6A NW because you're going to be doing extreme overclocking, then go for it. Otherwise, go with the AXP setup.
 

Duvie

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excellent non-biased response...I agree...That was my situation. I love amd cpus but felt an upgrade was about time and I was going to extreme oc so the choice was simple...
 

RaynorWolfcastle

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<< The AXP 1600+ (1.4GHz) should average a stable overclock of 1.6GHz on a retail hsf >>



Not a good idea as the Athlon XP 1600+ runs relatively hot on the retail HSF at that speed (even with ASII for thermal compound). I'll agree it is stable at 1575 MHz for me on the HSF. Still I kicked it back to 1450 MHz until I get a new HSF as 49C under load was getting a little too high for comfort in my case.

I'd go for P4 1.6A on i845D and overclock the crap out of it.

-Ice
 

MCS

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<< i have to decide between a intel 1.6(not a northwood) >>



Not a Northwood guys!!

Definitely go for the XP 1600+ - even a normal 1.4Ghz TBird walks all over a P4 1.6Ghz.
 

MadRat

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The NorthWood 1.6A will likely do over 2GHz, a few hit 2.4GHz, according to the experimenters on the board. The 1600+ XP will likely hit only 1.6GHz. The 600MHz of bragging rights is what they are after. Its a phallical benchmark more than anything.
 

Raiz

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Is there a reason that you chose not to get the Northwood? The Athlon XP would definetly ourperform a non-northwood P4, but the Northwoods seem to be a better choice at this time. What in influencing your decision against getting a Northwood processor?
 

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<< << i have to decide between a intel 1.6(not a northwood) >>



Not a Northwood guys!!

Definitely go for the XP 1600+ - even a normal 1.4Ghz TBird walks all over a P4 1.6Ghz.
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Whoops!!! Looks like my reading comprehension skills are a bit off, as well as a few other people's.

I change my recommendation for the XP 1600+ from a "cheaper and higher performance" to a "cheaper and MUCH higher performance". Although the XP 1700+ is only a few bucks more, why not get that?



BTW, if anyone thinks a 1.6Ghz Williamette P4 can beat an Athlon XP 1600+ on anything but a very P4 favored benchmark, you are smoking crack.
 

MadRat

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<<BTW, if anyone thinks a 1.6Ghz Williamette P4 can beat an Athlon XP 1600+ on anything but a very P4 favored benchmark, you are smoking crack.>>

And thats why non-NorthWood makes little sense. ;)