Intel Launches Performance Tuning Protection Plan On Select Processors

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I fully expect this to be exploited and it to end shortly thereafter.

My motherboard is the weak link in my setup. I have a budget z68 board that hates overclocking so I'll just have to make do with 4.3ghz.

 

[Grooveriding]

I fully expect this to be exploited and it to end shortly thereafter.

If you're right there is some coin to be made here. They'll have to continue to honour guarantees already sold. So if they discontinue this program and one were to stock up on many guarantee codes for the various CPUs...

A gamble though, it could work out for them and go on forever.

 

[Idontcare]

From the description on Intel's site, this sounds like it is intended to encourage overclocking, among the mainstream population.

Exactly. This is for all the folks who are fearful of bad things happening to their chip if they OC it, as well as for those resellers who want to sell pre-OC'ed systems but customers (people and businesses) won't buy them because they are out-of-warranty.

No so anymore, if the PTPP is applied.

So here's a few thoughts:

1. Why buy the warantee now? Overclock as mad as you want and buy it only if the proc dies. Why take the chance that it may NOT die?

2. Get your replacement, Ebay it, buy a new proc and a new warrantee. Immediately bypass the "no second replacement" stipulation.

3. I forsee unscrupulous overclockers getting a bad chip, intentionally killing it and betting on a replacement being a better overclocker.

In conclusion, this won't last long.

People who want to be frauds will always find a way to exploit the system regardless the rules.

The PTPP is not about anti-fraud, it is about enabling the acceptance, and validating the hobby, of mainstream OC'ing.

Intel is stupid and they are throwing money away with this shit. They know damn well people are going to go voltage crazy on the chips now.

I think you are vastly over-estimating the replacement cost of cpus. The expense comes in developing them and the fabs, actually making one more cpu as a replacement item for warranty purposes is a rather minor cost adder.

And how many warranty holders are really going to make a warranty claim? 1 out of 10? 1 out of 4? Even if the rma rate becomes 25% that means Intel is selling the extra CPU for ~$100-$150.

I'm not worried about Intel, they seem to know what they are doing if you look at their quarterly reports. Something tells me they'll survive.

 

[podspi]

Extended warranties tend to be very profitable...


I agree "extreme" OCers will probably abuse this program, but there aren't many extreme OCers out there, compared to people who just want to make their computer a bit faster, at the expense of power usage (and possibly stability). These people still will not want to blow up their chip, because at the very least the RMA will take time to fulfill. For that type of person, this is just an insurance policy.


IMHO, this is a statement on how likely the auto-OCing feature on motherboards are going to blow up your SB CPU.

 

[cantholdanymore]

IMHO, this is a statement on how likely the auto-OCing feature on motherboards are going to blow up your SB CPU.

WAYTA? My asus auto-tune feature rocks.
It gave me 4.6Ghz at the first go and by manually adjusting only TWO parameters (voltage and multiplier), I got it to 4.9Ghz
You can see I'm quite an experienced overclocker

 

[Rvenger]

I was wondering this as well. If my chip died I would have no qualms about selling the replacement and buying a new retail chip. There is nothing wrong with doing that. Intentionally killing your chip to keep recycling this way for a good one is pretty sad though.

Just how easy would it be to intentionally burn out a CPU anyways ? Would there be any chance of killing your motherboard at the same time in the process ?

I am sure Intel will replace your CPU with one from the edge of the wafer

 

[The Sauce]

I find myself agreeing with the logic of these arguments. Intel is, in fact, not stupid. They must have high yields and low cost per unit production at this point, once R&D has been factored out. Either that or they are banking on their built in thermal protection preventing significant damage.

This will draw all the enthusiast market away from AMD. Anyone forsee AMD following suit?

PS - Anyone want to moderate a NEW overclocking thread for PTPP owners now that people will be overvolting a lot more aggressively just to see what the real figures are?

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

What do you do at Intel, btw?

My official title is social media representative to the enthusiast space. Most of the time all I am doing is reading a number of forums looking for areas in which I can help with product information. Before this I was working in the pre-sales and channel member support group telling resellers around North America what goes with what.

 

[VirtualLarry]

My official title is social media representative to the enthusiast space. Most of the time all I am doing is reading a number of forums looking for areas in which I can help with product information. Before this I was working in the pre-sales and channel member support group telling resellers around North America what goes with what.

That sounds like a really cool job. Browse tech forums all day, and get paid for it?

 

[bradley]

My official title is social media representative to the enthusiast space. Most of the time all I am doing is reading a number of forums looking for areas in which I can help with product information. Before this I was working in the pre-sales and channel member support group telling resellers around North America what goes with what.

Sounds like a cool job. Though you might have the perfect demeanor for such a position. Speaking for myself, I just want the facts and a little bit of enthusiasm, no politics and no drama.

 

[Joseph F]

My official title is social media representative to the enthusiast space. Most of the time all I am doing is reading a number of forums looking for areas in which I can help with product information. Before this I was working in the pre-sales and channel member support group telling resellers around North America what goes with what.

Dude, I think I would kill for a position like yours... Yep, I would.

 

[jhu]

That just means Intel's profits on these chips are pretty high if their protection plan is prices are so low.

 

[jhu]

That sounds like a really cool job. Browse tech forums all day, and get paid for it? (Well, then again, so does most of ATOT I suppose.)

Quiet you! That's supposed to be an unspoken secret.

 

[exar333]

Seems like a good insurance plan if you plan to over-volt and are honest.

 

[cantholdanymore]

It looks now that after one year of testing Intel figured out that basically you can’t fry a SB as long as it is in a motherboard.

 

[notty22]

It looks now that after one year of testing Intel figured out that basically you can’t fry a SB as long as it is in a motherboard.

I agree.
Unlike the combination of variables with the 1156/45nm Lynfield cpu's/motherboards-bios/sockets, that in high voltage, extreme o/c's resulted in some socket -cpu burns. Sandy's may pop or degrade, but there isn't much proof of that and no socket/cpu burning. That I've heard of ?
I wonder if this kind of physical damage would be covered.

Decide first if you want to overclock your new PC or not. At least one computer hardware enthusiast website has discovered issues with how the Core i5 750, Core i7 860, and Core i7 870 CPUs, mainly with how they interact with compatible motherboards. Push these processors to the limit, and you might end up frying both the motherboard and CPU, rendering them useless.

Photos Courtesy Anandtech

All PC motherboards feature a CPU socket, which is where the processor is installed (or “seated”) to run the rest of the computer’s components. Ideally, once installed as instructed, all the CPU pins should maintain good contact with the corresponding recesses on the motherboard socket. This is important as it ensures not only the proper exchange of data between the motherboard and CPU, but power as well.
Anandtech’s discovery is that, on motherboard sockets manufactured by Foxconn for the processors mentioned above—or the LGA 1156 socket—the contact was less than optimal. This caused power instabilities that literally burned parts of the CPU and the motherboard. While Foxconn manufactures its own motherboards, it’s also the supplier of sockets for other brands like Asus and Gigabyte—particularly LGA 1156 sockets.

 

[jimpatrick]

It almost is worldwide. From the FAQ:

oh but i still doubt a third world country like mine is included still hoping though :'(

 

[paul878]

People going to buy it?

Intel have always just replaced cpu without hassle.

 

[Idontcare]

People going to buy it?

Intel have always just replaced cpu without hassle.

See:

Seems like a good insurance plan if you plan to over-volt and are honest.

 

[Kenmitch]

Originally Posted by ExarKun333 Seems like a good insurance plan if you plan to over-volt and are honest.

What would Intel consider over-volting a SB chip? Pumping more than the VID at a set multiplier? Exceeding the unkown max vcore?

The policy does seem like it's fairly priced....I was just wondering about the above is all

 

[VirtualLarry]

I think that I am going to seriously consider this plan. Wouldn't really hurt, and would allow me to try running up to 1.4v (my personal max). Otherwise, I would probably stop at 1.3-1.325v to be safe.

 

[Grooveriding]

People going to buy it?

Intel have always just replaced cpu without hassle.

I bought one as soon as I was made aware and clicked through to the site. :thumbsup:

This is just awesome in my book. I am putting my CPU under water cooling tomorrow and I know my chip can do 5ghz @ 1.48-1.5. Now I don't have to sweat it dying on me which I was worried about.

 

[Smoblikat]

Im not sure my chip needs this. I can do fairly high clocks with fairly low volts. But ima get it anyway.

 

[phalsedoom]

But, how would Intel or any other company actually know if your cpu died due to overclocking as opposed to a power surge?

 

[Ferzerp]

But, how would Intel or any other company actually know if your cpu died due to overclocking as opposed to a power surge?

Not everyone is pro-warranty fraud.