Intel Ivy Bridge 22nm Speculation thread

[Castiel]

 

[Spikesoldier]

we'll see if we can get 5.0 out of IB on air

 

[Castiel]

we'll see if we can get 5.0 out of IB on air

Sandy Bridge was just released and i already can't wait for IB

 

[ShadowVVL]

I will probably upgrade to IB around mid 2012 if its out.

so will 45w be the IB i3 ,65w i5 and i7 quad and 95 will be 6 and 8 core?

 

[Castiel]

I will probably upgrade to IB around mid 2012 if its out.

so will 45w be the IB i3 ,65w i5 and i7 quad and 95 will be 6 and 8 core?

I'm thinking the 6 core IB will be 95W and the quad's 65W

 

[ShadowVVL]

sounds good,If the price is great I might go for i7 if below $300.

I was amazed when i noticed it uses ddr3, then I wikied ddr4 and it looks like it was pushed back to 2015 which is a shame I was hoping it would be paired up with IB

 

[smakme7757]

From that it seems like Ivy Bridge will also have integrated graphics. I guess that's the way to go now and in all honesty it seems like a decent idea. Although from a PC enthusiasts point of view it sounds stupid, but realistically there are a lot of people who need raw CPU power that don't need a discrete GPU.

Very interesting indeed!

 

[Castiel]

From that it seems like Ivy Bridge will also have integrated graphics. I guess that's the way to go now and in all honesty it seems like a decent idea. Although from a PC enthusiasts point of view it sounds stupid, but realistically there are a lot of people who need raw CPU power that don't need a discrete GPU.

Very interesting indeed!

In the P67 chipset the IGP disables itself so IMO its not that big of a deal.

 

[smakme7757]

In the P67 chipset the IGP disables itself so IMO its not that big of a deal.

Ivy bridge won't be solely on the P67 though. As much as you'd hate to think it in the business world it is a big deal. You know how much money companies can save by deploying CPU with IGPs while still getting a high end paltform. It might not be a big deal for PC hobbyists, but you have to keep in mind we are only a very small market segment.

My bet is most CPUs in the future will have an inbuild GPU.

 

[Castiel]

Ivy bridge won't be solely on the P67 though. As much as you'd hate to think it in the business world it is a big deal. You know how much money companies can save by deploying CPU with IGPs while still getting a high end paltform. It might not be a big deal for PC hobbyists, but you have to keep in mind we are only a very small market segment.

My bet is most CPUs in the future will have an inbuild GPU.

I'd kill for a IB cpu with a 580 IGP

 

[Mopetar]

From that it seems like Ivy Bridge will also have integrated graphics. I guess that's the way to go now and in all honesty it seems like a decent idea. Although from a PC enthusiasts point of view it sounds stupid, but realistically there are a lot of people who need raw CPU power that don't need a discrete GPU.

Very interesting indeed!

It's still probably a waste of die space for most people though. If you don't need a discrete GPU there's nothing wrong with using mobo graphics. Unless the GPU portion of the chip can be programmed for, it's probably not very useful. I'd rather have more cores or more cache than a second rate GPU.

Hopefully Intel will also release a line of chips that doesn't include on-die graphics as I have no use for them at all and it's just wasted space for me.

 

[Castiel]

It's still probably a waste of die space for most people though. If you don't need a discrete GPU there's nothing wrong with using mobo graphics. Unless the GPU portion of the chip can be programmed for, it's probably not very useful. I'd rather have more cores or more cache than a second rate GPU.

Hopefully Intel will also release a line of chips that doesn't include on-die graphics as I have no use for them at all and it's just wasted space for me.

Pretty sure socket 2011 won't have an IGP

 

[Vette73]

It's still probably a waste of die space for most people though. If you don't need a discrete GPU there's nothing wrong with using mobo graphics. Unless the GPU portion of the chip can be programmed for, it's probably not very useful. I'd rather have more cores or more cache than a second rate GPU.

Hopefully Intel will also release a line of chips that doesn't include on-die graphics as I have no use for them at all and it's just wasted space for me.

Thats false. Most systems come with intergrated graphics. Last I checked Intel was the number 1 graphics company.

 

[RobDickinson]

The number of real end users out there who need or want discrete graphics thesedays is very limited.

IB is nothing more than a die shrink sandybridge, doesnt look like it brings anything else or changes anything.

 

[Edrick]

Haswell is going to be the real champ of 22nm. Just 2 more years

 

[bunnyfubbles]

we'll see if we can get 5.0 out of IB on air

high end air can already do 5Ghz with Sandy Bridge on about 5-10% of the K chips without too much voltage (ie around 1.4v), I'd wager Ivy Bridge should all but guarantee a majority of the chips will do 5GHz with at least decent air cooling

 

[drizek]

Supports "select" 6-series chipsets.

I take that to mean that you should probably take advantage of the opportunity to upgrade to Z67.

I would bet that Z67 is the most likely to support IB, followed by H67 and then P67.

 

[AdamK47]

16 god damn lanes. Sheesh.

 

[Mopetar]

Thats false. Most systems come with intergrated graphics. Last I checked Intel was the number 1 graphics company.

For enthusiasts it's a waste of space as they'll either be using a discrete card and would rather have the die space used for more cores/cache.

Intel might be #1 in terms of units shipped, but not in terms of performance. I honestly have no use for their integrated graphics and would rather get a chip without them.

 

[stargazr]

According to this article Intel expects a 20% performance increase, with a graphics boost of 30%. The first chips will be 1155.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...rformance_Boost_Over_Sandy_Bridge_Report.html

http://vr-zone.com/articles/ivy-bri...rmance-advantage-over-sandy-bridge/11061.html

 

[Vette73]

Supports "select" 6-series chipsets.

I take that to mean that you should probably take advantage of the opportunity to upgrade to Z67.

I would bet that Z67 is the most likely to support IB, followed by H67 and then P67.

Maybe but remember that its not the chipset number but what stepping. I have an orignal 965 chipset that does not support the higher end chips. The next stepping does.

If you want a system that last a longer time I would wait for the z68 with the 2nd stepping.

 

[Borealis7]

Sandy Bridge chips have either 6 or 12 Execution Units (EUs) on the IGP, right?
so i think IB might have 12 and 18 EUs with a bit higher clocks so IGP performance should be 30-40% better. i know an engineer at Intel who worked on SB, but i doubt he'll tell me anything (if he even knows...)

 

[stargazr]

so i think IB might have 12 and 18 EUs with a bit higher clocks so IGP performance should be 30-40% better. i know an engineer at Intel who worked on SB, but i doubt he'll tell me anything (if he even knows...)

That sounds about right according to this quote from an x-bitlabs article:

"The Intel HD Graphics core of Ivy Bridge will not only feature higher performance (according to some sources, it will have 16 stream processing elements (up from 12 of SNB), some claim that it will have 24 stream processors), but will also support DirectX 11, HDMI 1.4 output and probably some other improvements."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...rformance_Boost_Over_Sandy_Bridge_Report.html

So that would bring GPU performance up to about an HD 5450 maybe?

 

[smakme7757]

It seems like a lot people here think enthusiasts count for most of Intels revenue.

 

[SmCaudata]

If they can get it so games can have mid level details turned on at tv resolutions it will make super small htpcs awesome. The reason I want the gpu is for the super video encoding.