First, Intel releases the Prescott and retarded speeds that don't do any better than the similarly clocked Northwood versions. On top of that, they release a quicker Northwood instead of a Prescott. Then, after telling us that the Prescott chips would be compatible with already existant motherboards, we find out that it isn't. Great going Intel.
"intel has lost with the prescott"
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Where did you ever read a report by Intel telling us the existing chipset would work??? I never saw it.....
The prescott is built for the long run....there would have been no need to extend the pipeline if Intel wasn't looking at this chip a ghz above where it is now...now i will agree I think they should have came out with the 3.4ghz prescott and no 3.4ghz northwood to help propel the prescott into what its real role is...THE FUTURE!!!
I think you should refrain from title like that....I think you could have said "intel has lost with the prescott" but to call a multi-billion dollar corporation full of ppl many times smarter then you a bunch of loser is a bit off base.....
The prescott is built for the long run....there would have been no need to extend the pipeline if Intel wasn't looking at this chip a ghz above where it is now...now i will agree I think they should have came out with the 3.4ghz prescott and no 3.4ghz northwood to help propel the prescott into what its real role is...THE FUTURE!!!
I think you should refrain from title like that....I think you could have said "intel has lost with the prescott" but to call a multi-billion dollar corporation full of ppl many times smarter then you a bunch of loser is a bit off base.....
It's fine if it doesn't hang at its current speed.. It doesn't have to.
It will get its wings around 4ghz...@ 4ghz it seemed to scale right on or better than a NW core.. I believe Intel has plans for 5 ghz, so it will still be a winner..
AMD sure did put a hurtin' on them with A64.
pillage2001
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Thoug I was disapointed by it's scores at current speeds compared to the Northwood, it is understandable. I am honestly surprised it didn't do worse in the 2.8ghz catagory. I definatly think that VIAN will be eating crow at around 3.6ghz though. I also think that it will take 4ghz+ to beat the current A64's and even more to beat an equal A64 if they can. I think that in the time it takes for prescott to be ramped we will be on our way into the 64-bit OS.
Ofcourse that is in gaming and for the ppl who don't game....LIKE ME....I can care less......
The fact is at 3.4ghz it still would be king over the current A64's in multimedia, rendering,etc as Anandtech stated....If intel ramps fast to 4ghz and faster then amd does with the A64 it just means a bigger lead in those areas.....
it might take ddr2 for Prescott to shine.
was anyone here a Williamette OCer?
remember at first it could only be had with SDram ~ so us OCers were basically running 1.5g chips @ 2.0g with 177mhz SDram (3:4 ratio). and thats basically what it took to be faster then a 1050mhz P3.
then the ddr boards finally came out.
needless to say even the worst boards (SiS) showed an unbelievable performance increase running 133fsb 2.0g 333ddr (4:5 ratio).
i guess were just gonna hafta sit back and wait for someone to show us what prescott can really do OCed. (it was pretty much just a paper launch anyways)
was anyone here a Williamette OCer?
remember at first it could only be had with SDram ~ so us OCers were basically running 1.5g chips @ 2.0g with 177mhz SDram (3:4 ratio). and thats basically what it took to be faster then a 1050mhz P3.
then the ddr boards finally came out.
needless to say even the worst boards (SiS) showed an unbelievable performance increase running 133fsb 2.0g 333ddr (4:5 ratio).
i guess were just gonna hafta sit back and wait for someone to show us what prescott can really do OCed. (it was pretty much just a paper launch anyways)
Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
it might take ddr2 for Prescott to shine.
was anyone here a Williamette OCer?
remember at first it could only be had with SDram ~ so us OCers were basically running 1.5g chips @ 2.0g with 177mhz SDram (3:4 ratio). and thats basically what it took to be faster then a 1050mhz P3.
then the ddr boards finally came out.
needless to say even the worst boards (SiS) showed an unbelievable performance increase running 133fsb 2.0g 333ddr (4:5 ratio).
i guess were just gonna hafta sit back and wait for someone to show us what prescott can really do OCed. (it was pretty much just a paper launch anyways)
Thugsrook: Kinda like Paine Webber.
:beer:Yeah i think it's way too early to draw any conclusions.
lol funny to see scores of 7000 in 3dmock2k1 hehehe....
but yeah... i jumped shipped... prescott was definitely disappointing but i have a feeling that it's going to kick some major arse after it matures a bit kind of like the earlier p4's did...
hands down though... the best cpu out right now for p4 is the 3.4 ghz p4EE with 3 meg L2... though they cost 1000+ these things are incredible!!!
if i could get my hands on one.... that'd be sweet to run some nice bh-5's with these in 1:1 with 2-2-2-6 timings...
hehe~ circa 1/2002
hopefully ddr2 will bring the same kind of increase for prescott that ddr brought for willy.
however, there will be ddr2 northwood boards too.
so... again we will have another debatable topic to discuss
yep. hands down p4EE rules the roost at the moment.
makes ya wonder tho ~ is it the 1024kb L3 cache? or just the fact it has L3 cache at all?
or is just that the Gallatin cpu is that much better of a design over northwood? (and prescott?)
lots of ?????
And how will that help them out? They still won't have an integrated memory controller or HyperTransport support. You think that X86-64 is doing anything for for the AMD64 right now?
On clocking up to 4Ghz, how much heat do you think they will produce at those speeds? They are already 15c higher than a similar clocked Northwood! I think the core needs a revision similar to the original .13 athlon XPs!
64-bit isn't needed yet, I know, but that isn't why I prefer Athlon over Pentium. 64-bit addressable memory I think we will need in about 3 years. It's good however to start the transition now, that is why I think AMD made a good move. people are still using win95 and 98. Those people won't even need 4GBs of RAM in 3 years. Anyway, Athlon is quick and inexpensive. I think AMD has a better idea for the future.
Well it would seem that when it comes to Photoshop, the Prescott does pretty well:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/... .../images/cpu/prescott-tests/table.gif&1=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/... .../images/cpu/prescott-tests/table.gif&1=1
My motherboard (Abit IC7-MAX3) promised compatibility with Prescott CPU's. Can't remember if that was based on reviews or Abit's own specs. I looked on Abit's site and couldn't find any mention of the Prescott and MAX3. (sigh)
zephyrprime
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Prescott is made for high speeds but given it's huge heat output, I think it will have a very difficult time scaling.
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