News Intel GPUs - Intel launches A580

[psolord]

So if no one has actual hardware, what kind of launch was it? I mean I know about paper launches, but ether launches are something entirely new!

WHERE ARE MY REVIEWS FFS? xD

 

[DrMrLordX]

but ether launches are something entirely new!

Hey this isn't a crypto thread!

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(lol)

 

[mikk]

During HotHardware’s live interview, Petersen explained that Arc’s “Graphics Clock” is not comparable to AMD or NVIDIA “Base Clock”. This Intel clock metric has been explained as an average clock measured in TDP constrained environment. This value is estimated per each Arc SKU based on a large number of chips. Petersen added that this is essentially the slowest clock that Intel saw in a batch.

As an example, Petersen clarified that for Arc A370M SKU, the 1550 MHz clock is the minimum average clock that consumers will see regardless of the laptop design or the ‘Graphics Power’ variant of this specific chip. In this sense, the 1550 MHz clock applies to 35W SKU (think NVIDIA Max-Q or AMD RX 6000S series) and will almost certainly be higher for the 50W variant. The frequency will also depend on a workload, in games such as Counter Strike, gamers should see GPU clocks above 2 GHz, Petersen explains.

Intel Arc Alchemist "Graphics Clock" represents the worst case in TDP-constrained environment - VideoCardz.com

Intel Arc Alchemist Mobile “Graphics Clock” should easily hit 2 GHz in games It has been almost a week since the first Intel Arc GPUs were announced, but some details are still missing. Tom Petersen, Intel Graphics Innovation Fellow, who previously worked for NVIDIA, is now busy doing...

videocardz.com

 

[Saylick]

ARC's Graphics Clock sounds a whole lot like RDNA's Game Clock to me.

 

[Tup3x]

ARC's Graphics Clock sounds a whole lot like RDNA's Game Clock to me.

Since it's basically the worst case scenario at lowest TDP, I don't see what it has in common with game clock.

 

[DeathReborn]

It seems like the new Intel motto is "The Way It's Meant to be Delayed" as Arc is more a flat-line right now.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Has Intel told the OEMs to keep the laptops in the warehouses until their driver supporting the A350M/A370M gets released? I don't see why OEMs would hold onto stuff they can sell immediately.

Only one I could find: HP Spectre 2-in-1 16" UHD+ Touch-Screen Laptop Intel Evo platform Core i7 16GB Memory Intel Arc A370M 1TB SSD Nightfall Black 16-f1023dx - Best Buy

Price is high and it's coming soon. How soon? A month?

 

[Aapje]

Yeah, it's a bit weird that no laptops are getting sold here, despite them seeming ready. It does point to driver issues. I would expect Intel to struggle more with those than with the hardware itself anyway.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Hopefully Intel will have the driver issues worked out before they launch Arc dGPUs?

 

[Aapje]

Seems unlikely. This is why I don't expect it to be a good product for me to buy.

My prediction is that these GPUs will be bought by people who don't read reviews, but who are Intel fanboys or who buy based off spec sheets & that they will be very disappointed. Assuming that they are even for sale for home builders and won't go into Dells and the like.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Hopefully Intel will have the driver issues worked out before they launch Arc dGPUs?

There's one thing that Intel can do to expedite the launch without worrying about driver issues. Launch the dGPU and every week release a new playable tech demo. Gamers will be happy to see what their cool new GPU can do and wait for Intel's promise to materialize. That should buy them enough time to iron out the wrinkles in their drivers.

 

[Aapje]

I don't get video cards to run demos.

 

[igor_kavinski]

My prediction is that these GPUs will be bought by people who don't read reviews, but who are Intel fanboys or who buy based off spec sheets & that they will be very disappointed.

You are forgetting the Twitch streamers. Do they really care for a few glitches if they get 60+ fps?

 

[Aapje]

You are forgetting the Twitch streamers. Do they really care for a few glitches if they get 60+ fps?

Streamers are the last people who want to deal with glitches, games not working when they want to play, etc.

 

[Leeea]

You are forgetting the Twitch streamers. Do they really care for a few glitches if they get 60+ fps?

The only people who do not care are the miners.

Intel should have released this as an AI card, ( aka miner card ), and said it was not optimized for games and would function poorly with games. That would have at least sold well and given them something to iterate off of.

Now they seem to have missed the miner rush, and the GPU market is starting to look like it might go bear six months from now.

 

[moinmoin]

There's one thing that Intel can do to expedite the launch without worrying about driver issues. Launch the dGPU and every week release a new playable tech demo.

Software is the bottleneck. Even more software is the solution? 🤓

 

[igor_kavinski]

Software is the bottleneck. Even more software is the solution? 🤓

Tech demo is made by their own software engineers. They know what code to write to workaround the driver problems.

 

[PingSpike]

Intel now claims laptops with Arc GPUs will ship by the end of the second quarter - VideoCardz.com

Has Intel just ‘unreleased’ its Arc GPUs? Intel Arc laptops are impossible to find in any store right now. It has now been a week since Intel launched its Arc GPUs for laptops. Initially, only the entry-level Arc 3 series are now official ‘available’, with more powerful gaming variants launching...

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[GodisanAtheist]

Oh lawdy this launch is shaping up to be a disastrophy for the books...

 

[linkgoron]

Looks like another Raja classic.

Looks like this is still true.

 

[Glo.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1512264698842222604

Here they corrected their own misinformation(?).

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Looks like this is still true.

-In defense of Raja, he seems to gravitate toward lost causes or insurmountable challenges in this day and age. It's easy to judge from a distance, but think of the scope of the tasks he has recently tried to take on:

- Taking over the Radeon group at AMD at the absolute nadir of AMD's profitability and competitiveness in all markets. Vega and Polaris were not all they were cracked up to be for sure, but they kept AMD competitive and driver packages were solid under his tenure. RDNA and CDNA were either developed or managed under his tenure as well.

- Bringing Intel's GPU department up from piddling iGPUs to full fledged discreet GPUs in 5 years, especially for a company like Intel, is no small feat. Will Raja ultimately succeed? All indicators point to no, but god damn if it doesn't look like he's giving it his all.

Raja's biggest downfall seems to be managing expectations. Dude loves to hype, and given some of the externalities surrounding his projects, the hype is rarely ever met. That gap between the perception he likes to create around his projects and the reality of what his projects will actually be able to accomplish do not do him any favors.

 

[Aapje]

Also keep in mind that Intel as a whole was floundering for a while. They are still digging themselves out of a hole.

 

[psolord]

Tech demo is made by their own software engineers. They know what code to write to workaround the driver problems.

True dat.

Here's an Intel next gen demo!

Pixel Pat

processorpioneers.intel.com

xD

 

[mikk]

The first three A350M tests have been spotted, all are from Korea. More here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1512459267735179269

Timespy scores between 2900-3500 depending on the test. The second is the highest performing, maybe it's power profile related.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1512459577933328384