Intel G4560 Kaby Lake dual-core w/HT 3.5Ghz 1151 CPU $59.99 FS @ ebay (AntOnline)

[VirtualLarry]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-G4560...959974?hash=item43fd9131e6:g:UagAAOSwImRYkp~K

AntOnline has been just as reliable for me as Newegg on ebay, for purchasing CPUs and video cards. I can't speak to their RMAs, as I have never had an outright defective CPU or video card.

I bought two of these a week ago, for slightly under $63 shipped. (ARK list price is $64.)

Under $60 is practically a steal.

Search YouTube for video reviews and build vlogs around the G4560.

It's basically a Skylake i3, minus AVX/AVX2 support, for half the price. Great for gaming, beats the AMD FX series pretty-much hands-down.

 

[daveybrat]

Fantastic price! Paid $62 for mine from Amazon via AntOnline. But i also get 5% back with my Amazon credit card. Just received it the other day.

Now to find a good B250 motherboard to pair it up with and upgrade my parents aging old Sandy-Bridge Dual-Core system. Gonna be a nice upgrade for them!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I had a major headache dealing with AntOnline through NewEgg. Shady-ass company with a lot of problems on RR, they were complete scumbags with me and I had to file a PayPal dispute because they refused to issue an RMA for an item damaged in shipping. And that seems to be pretty common for them, good prices and good deals are possible, but if you have any sort of issue at all you're hosed because they won't take care of it.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Good to know, thanks. I generally prefer to purchase from Newegg if it's available from them.

 

[daveybrat]

I had a major headache dealing with AntOnline through NewEgg. Shady-ass company with a lot of problems on RR, they were complete scumbags with me and I had to file a PayPal dispute because they refused to issue an RMA for an item damaged in shipping. And that seems to be pretty common for them, good prices and good deals are possible, but if you have any sort of issue at all you're hosed because they won't take care of it.

I've heard of those stories, but i figured a retail boxed G4560 wouldn't have any issues. Sure enough, i received an unopened sealed retail boxed cpu. So i think it's still a great deal!

 

[jiffer]

Fantastic price! ... Now to find a good B250 motherboard to pair it up with and upgrade my parents aging old Sandy-Bridge Dual-Core system. Gonna be a nice upgrade for them!

As VirtualLarry said, "It's basically a Skylake i3, minus AVX/AVX2 support, for half the price," which is very good news. This is a great deal. The only drawback in my opinion is that Kaby Lake does not support Windows 7 or Windows 8, so you're forced to upgrade to Windows 10. I hope you got in on the free upgrade deal that expired last July.

For what it's worth, Skylake support for Windows 7 and Windows 8 has been reinstated. Microsoft originally announced that support for Windows 7 for Skylake would end in July 2017, then they extended it for one more year, and then in August they announced that the original end of life dates would be rolled back into effect. They drew the line with new processor lines such as Kaby Lake (and AMD's Zen), which will only be supported on Windows 10. It's just something to be aware of if you're planning an upgrade. It's a bummer for me since I was looking forward to Kaby Lake but I don't want to use Windows 10 (I've done my best to avoid forced updates and the telemetry and user experience "features").

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm running Win7 Pro 64-bit SP1 + updates just fine on my Kaby Lake G4600 DeskMini rig. Yeah, maybe it's not "officially" supported (and therefore, the video drivers I scrounged up were "beta"), but it does work, if you care to try.

Edit: Well, good news, Newegg dropped their ridiculous $5.99 shipping charge for the G4560, so now it's $64.99 FS.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117743

AntOnline on ebay is still $5 cheaper though.

 

[jiffer]

To be honest, I'm not sure exactly what "unsupported" means, but from past experience I'm guessing that it means you have to jump through hoops to make your system run properly. For example, if I recall correctly, Windows XP did not allow you to run your hard drive in AHCI mode, so in a way you were crippling your hardware. Kaby Lake has new hardware features that will never be supported in older operating systems, and I'm guessing that Intel won't be releasing IGP graphics drivers for the older operating systems. I guess it just depends on which hardware features matter to you and how much effort you're willing to put into it. But yeah, maybe it's worth a try.

 

[Roland00Address]

Keeping track of the intel generations and the performance increases is sometimes hard. So for simplicity sake what is the performance change / delta between this process and the pentium g3258 anniversary edition (Haswell at 3.2 ghz but unlocked multiplier) vs kaby lake g4560 at 3.5 ghz?

9.375% due to clock speed if you do not overclock the processors plus how much more performance increase due to it being a 7th generation vs 4th generation dual core with no hyperthreading? Both processors have 3 mb of l3 cache. Anandtech needs to update their bench tool with some newer pentiums =P

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/haswell-not-dead-yet.2499109/

A CPU-Z benchmark comparison between a G3258 @ 4.0 (most all G3258 CPUs will do 4.0), and a G4600 (one notch up from a G4560).

Takeaway: ST speed is around the same, MT favors the HyperThreaded Kaby Lake Pentium, which also helps for modern games.

 

[jiffer]

Most of the reviews I've read haven't been impressed by the single thread performance gains Intel has achieved since Sandy Lake. You're basically getting die shrinks, optimizations and slightly higher clock speeds. The real gains come in the form of power efficiency and new features, such as NetFlix 4K streaming, Optane Memory (unfortunately not available in the G4560), extra PCIe lines, support for DDR4-2400 (which should boost overall system performance), Intel Smart Sound technology, Intel Authenticate technology, etc. The new Kaby Lake line also includes a feature called base-clock-aware dynamic-voltage-and-frequency-scaling (DVFS) which makes overclocking easier and more reliable (you don't have to spend a lot of effort trying to find a stable fixed voltage, and it saves energy when the system is idle). All of this assumes that you upgrade to a new motherboard chipset as well. So the main improvements are system-wide, not so much in the single thread performance department. I suppose you could also say that Intel's manufacturing efficiency improvements are also allowing them to sell their parts at lower prices, which is a benefit to consumers.

There's also another big difference between the G4560 and the G3258: multi-threading. The operating system recognizes the G4560 as a quad core processor. Aside from performance gains, applications such as GeForce ShadowPlay require a quad core processor (which is one reason why I upgraded to a Core i3 a few years back). As VirtualLarry pointed out, a G4560 is like getting a Core i3 for half the price (even less than you might have paid for that G3258). That's progress.

 

[VirtualLarry]

As VirtualLarry pointed out, a G4560 is like getting a Core i3 for half the price (even less than you might have paid for that G3258). That's progress.

Yep. Now all we need is a source of cheaper socket 1151 boards ($40 or less), and then the G4560 will not only be faster, but also cheaper than G3258 builds.