Intel experincing weak dual core sales and will miss goals...

[Duvie]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20050622A9049.

Is this perhaps casue they are rather poor in comparison to rival AMD chips??

or

Perhaps it is they are extremely hot and consume tremendous amounts of power. In fact these 2 things are the reasons Intel came out with a rather anemic 3.2ghz top model offering. Which in return they are not seen as very attractice since majority of apps are not multithreaded and thus most of the single core line of P4s will trounch these chips...

or

Is it INtel just hasn't strated reving up the marketing spin (aka code BS) to get ppl to think they need to have one of these?? I always thought they were a bit ambitious on their goals...Sidenote I think AMD had been ambitious as well with their cpu numbers and instead I think we are getting ready to head into another market slowdown. I talk to common ppl all the time and they think their celerons (cough spit) they bought from Dell still do everything they want to do. Fact is the software hasn't kept pace with the need for faster machines....


Both AMD and INtel should realize the fact that the market this chip will sell to is the enthusaist power user crowd..Unfortunately for INtel they tend to be more tech savvy and know how to read the numbers...

I guess it is time to rev up the "knee-capping" Intel does so well!!!

 

[Pabster]

LOL. "According to sources with motherboard makers..."

Looks like a bunch of BS to me. I'll guarantee you Intel has sold more dual core chips than AMD thus far. Now whether they have reached a particular benchmark in terms of total number sold is another story. But until some hard numbers from reliable sources are presented, I'd call this rumor/speculation at best.

 

[fishbits]

I actually saw an ad here the other day that said something like "Double your gaming experience with Intel dual core processors." Wasn't from Intel itself, but remembered thinking "Man, that's desperate!" (nevermind fraudulent).

As someone said in another thread, the lower end Intel DCs strike me as fine chips for multitasking for the price. But, anyone that heavy into multitasking probably already bought a powerful single core chip, so would get next to no benefit from switching, esp with the price of a new mobo thrown in.

Fact is the software hasn't kept pace with the need for faster machines....

Not sure what you meant there. Thought it was software that drove the need for faster machines. Unless maybe you mean we're going to expect and want faster machines to the point it feels like a need, and the software guys haven't been keeping up by giving us new features. Although if they did, the other half of us would be cursing them for bloat Poor software guys, they can't get a break!

 

[Duvie]

Well you are the expert!!!




(of BS that is)

They likely attribute dual core sales with the amount of boards they are selling (seems logical (to most that is))...since INtel requires you to buy a new mobo unlike AMD which works on existing mobos I think one can do that with a bit more certainty...If mobo makers are not selling bucnh of boards one would have to wonder what the heck these cpus are sitting in...

Heck Intel numbers would likely include shipments to PC makers and vendors which are a much shottier way of determing actually purchases by consumers...

You dont have to believe anything...,

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: fishbits
I actually saw an ad here the other day that said something like "Double your gaming experience with Intel dual core processors." Wasn't from Intel itself, but remembered thinking "Man, that's desperate!" (nevermind fraudulent).

As someone said in another thread, the lower end Intel DCs strike me as fine chips for multitasking for the price. But, anyone that heavy into multitasking probably already bought a powerful single core chip, so would get next to no benefit from switching, esp with the price of a new mobo thrown in.

Fact is the software hasn't kept pace with the need for faster machines....

Not sure what you meant there. Thought it was software that drove the need for faster machines. Unless maybe you mean we're going to expect and want faster machines to the point it feels like a need, and the software guys haven't been keeping up by giving us new features. Although if they did, the other half of us would be cursing them for bloat Poor software guys, they can't get a break!

meaning avarage users and their average uses...This wont speed up word processing, typing, internet (but that didnt stop intel in the past from making these claims), most games which are more gpu dependent....

Remember according to numbers most ppl buy celerons and are likely well below 3ghz now....My mom, father and law, niece, wife and child, etc...would not benefit from any performance increase (noticeable) for their activites on the PC...I am the one who runs CAD and encoding apps that will just go as fast as you feed them...

What I am saying until more users (average) get into power type uses there wont be a big need for these much faster machine....Most users dont upgrade their PC for 2-3 years...again not common to most of us here. If a majority of ppl have purchased in the last 1-2 years a P4 they are not that far off where the top is toda...they will likely sit a bit longer...