intel dual cores are cheap on ebay

[hans007]

just wanted to post that on ebay they are pretty cheap.

820s can be had for $160 and 830s for $230 or so on buyit now auctions for oem units. just search for all buy it now units and something like "intel 820" and itll be there. a lot of these oems are pulls out of dell units for some reason, but well they are dirt cheap compared to retails.

just have to wait around, so if anyone wants to go dual this is the cheapest way to go. there is a 10% off paypal coupon today, and i was able to get an 820 for $144! thats less than an amd 3200+

anyways... just giving you guys the heads up, the coupon expires end of november

 

[Tu13erhead]

You get what you pay for.

 

[Vegitto]

Yeah, I might get one next year, build me a MacTel .. Probably an 820 or 830 with 512 MB of RAM, 200 GB IDE HD, my old MX440 ....

 

[Markfw]

Yup, I got an 820 for $160. Then you need a $50-$60 HSF if you want to OC (if you don;t they aren;t worth having), a big PSU, which still isn;t big enough, and my electric bill jumper $20 a month (its on 24/7), and my 3800+ X2 creams it in every benchmark I have run, video by 50% !

So yes, you get less than what you pay for, as it will cost way more due to power and cooling costs (and AC) in the long run.

 

[stevty2889]

I got my 830 for $160, and it wasn't worth the cost. The thing runs at 50c idle, and 70c load at stock speeds, and thats with my thermaltake jungle 512, the stock cooler was far worse. I've got great airflow in the case, including a 103cfm 120mm fan that makes the thing sound like a freakin vacuum cleaner, my case temps stay around 28c, but the freakin thing still runs that hot. Thats probably why they are going cheap on e-bay..

 

[carlosd]

This goes to show people wants to get rid of the crap.

 

[hans007]

well i picked one up for my system, since i already had the motherboard and such.

the 820 doesnt seem to run any hotter than my 520 d0 stepping. oh well whatever, i'm pretty happy with it, was just trying to give anyone a heads up who wanted one. oh well i have a btx case too... figured i'd build an uber intel system instead of an amd.

seems the anandtech crowd is way pro amd. oh well, this cpu is half the cost of their cheapest dual.

 

[AkumaX]

i got my 820D at almost $140

yeah, you a cheap cpu at more than 1/2 the price of the cheapest X2. but you also get 1/2 the performance, and the price goes up if you have to pay for electricity. don't forget you'd need a pretty good motherboard and exotic cooling solution to o/c, only to (maybe) reach the performance of a regular X2 3800+.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: hans007
well i picked one up for my system, since i already had the motherboard and such.

the 820 doesnt seem to run any hotter than my 520 d0 stepping. oh well whatever, i'm pretty happy with it, was just trying to give anyone a heads up who wanted one. oh well i have a btx case too... figured i'd build an uber intel system instead of an amd.

seems the anandtech crowd is way pro amd. oh well, this cpu is half the cost of their cheapest dual.

sorry, but SHENS! 820 is like two 2.8GHz 5xx series on one die. That just can not be right.

 

[TuxDave]

I suspect its due to people taking advantage of the new promotion that Intel offered its employees and turning it around on ebay to get a profit.

 

[dmens]

amen to that. used my employee discount to help fund my x2 lol.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: dmens
amen to that. used my employee discount to help fund my x2 lol.

shame shame, it says we can't sell them for profit..

 

[dmens]

Like anyone reads anything that links off circuit news. click click click gimme discount.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: hans007
well i picked one up for my system, since i already had the motherboard and such.

the 820 doesnt seem to run any hotter than my 520 d0 stepping. oh well whatever, i'm pretty happy with it, was just trying to give anyone a heads up who wanted one. oh well i have a btx case too... figured i'd build an uber intel system instead of an amd.

seems the anandtech crowd is way pro amd. oh well, this cpu is half the cost of their cheapest dual.

sorry, but SHENS! 820 is like two 2.8GHz 5xx series on one die. That just can not be right.

the e0 stepping 520s dont use as much power as d0. and the a0 820s are basically the same as the 520 e0. but i have a d0. the hottest prescotts i think are the c0 stepping 478ones. i think an 820 uses about the same power as a 630. it was the only dual core i thought worth getting, the 830 and up uses much more power.

i suppose for my uses it was ok to get the 820. since i don't oc and already had an decent board and cooler (i run a 945g based btx setup, the btx coolers weigh like 2 pounds and could probably cool anything). the 820 i dont think is really half the performance of a 3800+. oh well, im not much of a gamer, i just wanted the smoothness of 2 of anything.

oh well, ddr2 is cheap too. i was able to buy 4x512 pc2-3200 cl3 for $95. cant do that with ddr1.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: hans007
well i picked one up for my system, since i already had the motherboard and such.

the 820 doesnt seem to run any hotter than my 520 d0 stepping. oh well whatever, i'm pretty happy with it, was just trying to give anyone a heads up who wanted one. oh well i have a btx case too... figured i'd build an uber intel system instead of an amd.

seems the anandtech crowd is way pro amd. oh well, this cpu is half the cost of their cheapest dual.

The Anandtech crowd is pro best chip money can buy and best chip at a price point.

We're definitely pro AMD at the moment; Markfw900 stated most of the good reasons why. It's not fanboyism; AT had a heavy Intel slant in the Pentium 4 "C" days b/c that was the best performing chip. AMD had its fans because for $50, a 1700+ @ 2.4 Ghz couldn't be beat.

Nowadays, if you're building an enthusiast setup, there's really no reason to get an Intel. The P4 Preshott and Pentium D are powerhungry infernos. Furthermore, you will either have to buy underperforming high-latency DDR2, or expensive enthusiast DDR2.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
The Anandtech crowd is pro best chip money can buy and best chip at a price point.

We're definitely pro AMD at the moment; Markfw900 stated most of the good reasons why. It's not fanboyism; AT had a heavy Intel slant in the Pentium 4 "C" days b/c that was the best performing chip. AMD had its fans because for $50, a 1700+ @ 2.4 Ghz couldn't be beat.

No, I was here during the P4-C days, it was pretty much the same as it is now. I was also here during the pre-Athlon days, and saw people posting about how great their K6-2/3 were against Mendocino's.

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Nowadays, if you're building an enthusiast setup, there's really no reason to get an Intel. The P4 Preshott and Pentium D are powerhungry infernos. Furthermore, you will either have to buy underperforming high-latency DDR2, or expensive enthusiast DDR2.

I personally wouldn't get the P-D 820. I saw the Pentium-M 740 for $95 retail, which would make for a very cheap and high performing and cheap Pentium-M desktop computer (with an Asus P4GD1 or P4GPL-X + adapter). Overclock that sucker to around 3Ghz, and you're in competition with the top Athlon-FX systems and it will only consume 1/3 the power to boot.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
The Anandtech crowd is pro best chip money can buy and best chip at a price point.

We're definitely pro AMD at the moment; Markfw900 stated most of the good reasons why. It's not fanboyism; AT had a heavy Intel slant in the Pentium 4 "C" days b/c that was the best performing chip. AMD had its fans because for $50, a 1700+ @ 2.4 Ghz couldn't be beat.

No, I was here during the P4-C days, it was pretty much the same as it is now. I was also here during the pre-Athlon days, and saw people posting about how great their K6-2/3 were against Mendocino's.

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
Nowadays, if you're building an enthusiast setup, there's really no reason to get an Intel. The P4 Preshott and Pentium D are powerhungry infernos. Furthermore, you will either have to buy underperforming high-latency DDR2, or expensive enthusiast DDR2.

I personally wouldn't get the P-D 820. I saw the Pentium-M 740 for $95 retail, which would make for a very cheap and high performing and cheap Pentium-M desktop computer (with an Asus P4GD1 or P4GPL-X + adapter). Overclock that sucker to around 3Ghz, and you're in competition with the top Athlon-FX systems and it will only consume 1/3 the power to boot.

i think maybe the most pro intel anandtech has ever been is when the 1.6 p4 northwoods were out. (i owned a 1.6A at that time)

maybe when the celeron 300As were doing 450 as well, since the comparable k6-2's sucked (but i owned a k6-2 at the time).

but this is more of an underdog crowd, and it seems like they buy cheaper chips regardless since they are trying to o/c and get the most for their money.

that is why i posted this post since well the intel dual cores are cheaper and more or less the underdog but oh well.

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: dexvx
I personally wouldn't get the P-D 820. I saw the Pentium-M 740 for $95 retail, which would make for a very cheap and high performing and cheap Pentium-M desktop computer (with an Asus P4GD1 or P4GPL-X + adapter). Overclock that sucker to around 3Ghz, and you're in competition with the top Athlon-FX systems and it will only consume 1/3 the power to boot.

That's REALLY cheap. If I was building a SFF system I think I'd go in that direction.... although bear in mind that the P-Ms get pretty inconsistent results. Apparently some threads report VERY good results with games using P-Ms but not so great with normal productivity. I don't remember too many details. However the reports of the Dothan performance stood out enough for me that I would bet it's the best thing Intel has out right now, until Yonah comes out...

 

[AkumaX]

whao, a P-M 740 for $95? that sounds dirt cheap. might we worth it to fire up a rig with such power/wattage efficiency.

i won't go to far back, but we are the best bang for buck forum. think about it, ill go as far back as the 1.6a -- the return of the 50% overclock! then it jumped up to like, tbred-b athlons, back to p4c's, then to xp-m's, newcastles, dothans, winchesters, venice, etc...

ALL THE RAGE YOU GUYS!!! just a fad... although i would like to see some healthier competition!! imagine if intel had a similar solution NOW, like the current p-m's (haha PMS), but for desktop and not crappy with other apps besides games. which would YOU decide???

 

[stevty2889]

My Dothan makes a very nice SFF gaming rig, my 1.6 runs at 2.4ghz on stock voltage, and masacred my P4 @3.82ghz in gaming performance, and only slightly behind my X2. My Pentium-D, well, it's a good umm, oh yeah, thats what e-bay is for..

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
Apparently some threads report VERY good results with games using P-Ms but not so great with normal productivity. I don't remember too many details. However the reports of the Dothan performance stood out enough for me that I would bet it's the best thing Intel has out right now, until Yonah comes out...

To this day, I fail to see the relevancy of benchmarking Word/Excel/Office applications in general. Thats why I've always ignored synthetic tests involving those. The area that it doesnt perform well in that matters is math/science applications.

Anyways, I'm guessing this magical increase in eBay Retail Pentium-D's is the result of certain employee's dumping their employee discount on the processors and reselling them. I suppose if you lived in Alaska it'd be a pretty nice deal.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
Apparently some threads report VERY good results with games using P-Ms but not so great with normal productivity. I don't remember too many details. However the reports of the Dothan performance stood out enough for me that I would bet it's the best thing Intel has out right now, until Yonah comes out...

To this day, I fail to see the relevancy of benchmarking Word/Excel/Office applications in general. Thats why I've always ignored synthetic tests involving those. The area that it doesnt perform well in that matters is math/science applications.

Anyways, I'm guessing this magical increase in eBay Retail Pentium-D's is the result of certain employee's dumping their employee discount on the processors and reselling them. I suppose if you lived in Alaska it'd be a pretty nice deal.

yeah there are a lot from the retail edge thing on there. the one i got was an oem unit though, apparently people are buying dell dimension 9100s and then stripping the computers apart, you can buy shells of dells on there too.

i suppose it makes sense.

buy the dell, with a deal with monitors. sell everything in pieces for profit. or keep the monitor and sell everything else in pieces.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yup, I got an 820 for $160. Then you need a $50-$60 HSF if you want to OC (if you don;t they aren;t worth having), a big PSU, which still isn;t big enough, and my electric bill jumper $20 a month (its on 24/7), and my 3800+ X2 creams it in every benchmark I have run, video by 50% !

So yes, you get less than what you pay for, as it will cost way more due to power and cooling costs (and AC) in the long run.

True intel gets you on the back end.. I'd wager after a year of using slower and 'cheaper' 820D one would be batter off with a 3800+ even on cost with power useage and total system cost fiqured in.

I'm not sure what 820D mobos are going for but how can you compete with a $63 AsRock board for 3800+? Or a Asus board with DVI out and 6150 turbo cache graphics for $81?

 

[Markfw]

THe only problem with the Asrock board, is you only get 1.4 vcore max. I could only get 2400 out out my 3800+, wheras in my chaintech vnf4 ultra, I got 2500 @ 1.45 My favorite so far it my MSI neo4-f at $85. It gets me 2550 on my other 3800 X2.

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yup, I got an 820 for $160. Then you need a $50-$60 HSF if you want to OC (if you don;t they aren;t worth having), a big PSU, which still isn;t big enough, and my electric bill jumper $20 a month (its on 24/7), and my 3800+ X2 creams it in every benchmark I have run, video by 50% !

So yes, you get less than what you pay for, as it will cost way more due to power and cooling costs (and AC) in the long run.

True intel gets you on the back end.. I'd wager after a year of using slower and 'cheaper' 820D one would be batter off with a 3800+ even on cost with power useage and total system cost fiqured in.

I'm not sure what 820D mobos are going for but how can you compete with a $63 AsRock board for 3800+? Or a Asus board with DVI out and 6150 turbo cache graphics for $81?

hey zeb, i had a $65 asrock mobo for my 820D that took in both pci-e | agp and ddr | ddr2

btw i went back to the darkside w/ that BF 3800+ deal