SPR seems to top out at 350W. And no one was debating that there's a huge efficiency gap, but you claimed some very particular numbers that clearly don't match either platform.
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Markfw
Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
I was estimating, and not far off.... Jeesh, give me a break. Even you agree its like 2 to 1 or 100% more efficient. Why haggle on numbers that are close.
Off by several hundred watts all told. And I don't think anyone was making into a big deal, but at the same time, if you're interested in how they compare in power, that information has been both readily available and posted to this forum in several places. It would be surprising for such a prolific member to not have seen either data point yet.
Markfw
Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
So you are saying I read every single post in every single thread ? You just like to troll me every place I post.
You didn't claim to be guessing. You said, and I quote, "you can bet that 2P system is running over 1000 watts". So why was it ok for you to make that claim, but not me to correct it?
And why is it that your "guesses" always seem to radically favor AMD beyond all reality?
You constantly claim to be personally concerned with power numbers, but can't be bothered to make accurate claims?
Or they will just roll with the tile model and just sell whatever they get out of that. Maybe also fire the person who thought that an 800 mm2 die was a good idea.
Is it that hard to believe it's just going to launch as expected?
igor_kavinski
Lifer
Nope. That employee is going to get a bonus. Coz that's what they do at Intel 😀
nicalandia
Diamond Member
It would appear that Sapphire Rapids it's getting better with each BIOS Update, The first GB5 Entries were very disappointing, but now it would appear that they will be competitive with Genoa on a core for core basis.
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lightisgood
Senior member
I have watched the whole about "Chalk Talk" event...
It looks like, because of various accelerators, SPRs achieves x3~6 perfomance (cf. ICL-SP) in major DC workloads.
This is better than I had thought.
Are SPRs and Eagle stream great jump similar to the Nehalem-EP?
It looks like, because of various accelerators, SPRs achieves x3~6 perfomance (cf. ICL-SP) in major DC workloads.
This is better than I had thought.
Are SPRs and Eagle stream great jump similar to the Nehalem-EP?
nicalandia
Diamond Member
Well to be honest there was nothing impressive about Core2 Xeons back then(Or Server Grade CPUs back on those days), But yeah in Niche Products(mind you that GPUs and ASIC are many times more efficient and more powerful at doing that than anything SPR-SP can mustard), this is a pretty big jump in performance.
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nicalandia
Diamond Member
Core for Core this is the fastest(Multi-Threaded) Intel Sapphire Rapids-SP processor and the most competitive with Genoa(Core for Core)
The Intel Xeon Platinum 8468 48C/96T
2S System(Two Sockets for 96C/192T)
Geekbench5: 74,853 Points
browser.geekbench.com
Cinebench R23
MT: 90,411 Points
V-Ray
MT: 85,766 vsamples
Sisoftware Sandra Native Arithmetic:
1,900.91GOPS
The Intel Xeon Platinum 8468 48C/96T
2S System(Two Sockets for 96C/192T)
Geekbench5: 74,853 Points
Nettrix N/A - Geekbench
Benchmark results for a Nettrix N/A with an Intel Xeon Platinum 8468 processor.
browser.geekbench.com
Cinebench R23
MT: 90,411 Points
V-Ray
MT: 85,766 vsamples
Sisoftware Sandra Native Arithmetic:
1,900.91GOPS
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Henry swagger
Senior member
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Granite rapids already running 120 cores
Granite rapids already running 120 cores
Markfw
Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
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This appears to be the original source:
Granite Rapids 與 DDR5-6400MT/s 現蹤 Intel Innovation 2022 台北場 - BenchLife.info
AMD 已經確認會在台灣時間 11 月 11 日凌晨 2 點發表代號 Genoa 的 Zen 4 架 […]
benchlife.info
Not much info to go by. They don't even explicitly state that it's Granite Rapids. But if it is GNR, then it would be a promising sign if they have DDR5 working better on first/early GNR silicon than on mature SPR/EMR silicon. But obviously way too early to really tell.
Henry swagger
Senior member
Looking good
nicalandia
Diamond Member
So Sapphire Rapids-SP HBM has been rebranded Xeon Max?
Looking like a 3 year delayed product.
Looking like a 3 year delayed product.
lightisgood
Senior member
Supercomputing 22 - 2 | Performance Index
edc.intel.com
I guess that Genoa-X has twice Milan-X performance by 96cores, 12ch-DDR5 and AVX512.
Is Xeon MAX without "AMX effect" good product?
Maybe Xeon MAX boasts perfomance/cost and perfomance/watt.
We know that DIMM slot(12ch-DDR5) is expensive equipment and DRAM access is a waste of energy.
However, basically, I think that EMRs with HBM3 should compete Genoa-X.
nicalandia
Diamond Member
On a Core for Core basis? Yeah, on TCO? Not in the least. 2S systems are always lower cost than 4S
lightisgood
Senior member
General competitiveness (for revenue)...
nicalandia
Diamond Member
You know Intel is in a Bad Shape when they can't even fact check their own product line and are looking for a headline.
wccftech.com
Xeon Knights Landing with HBM and same memory configurations.
Intel Announces The Worlds First x86 CPU With HBM Memory: Xeon Max 'Sapphire Rapids' Data Center CPU
Intel, today, announced the world's first x86 CPU with HBM memory: the Intel Xeon CPU Max Series. This is a product line we have previously referred to as Sapphire Rapids and will comprise of 56 performance cores (112 threads) and a 350W TDP. It features an EMIB based design divided into four...
wccftech.com
Xeon Knights Landing with HBM and same memory configurations.
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arandomguy
Senior member
It was HMC (Hybrid Memory Cube). There were multiple competing stacked memory solutions in development at that time.
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nicalandia
Diamond Member
Please stop trying to Spin that for Intel. It was HBM and it's even in their own manual.
MCDRAM as High-Bandwidth Memory (HBM) in Knights Landing Processors: Developer’s Guide
This publication is part of a developer guide focusing on the new features in 2nd generation Intel® Xeon Phi™ processors code-named Knights Landing (KNL). In this document we discuss the…
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