There's no need to speculate. Back in January(no hype about the virus) when Ryzen Mobile 4000 launched, all vendors were pointing at March/April as the release date. So it makes sense why we're seeing it now.
If next gen launches exactly a year from Renoir, we'll see it at March/April 2021.
On another note, again no detail on Xe!
This is always the ideal case. Picasso was available in February last year, Renoir will be available in April (probably), so it is more than a year for this generation. The next update could easily slip into a timeframe around June Computex with regards to availability which makes a paper launch in January during CES implausible because the time gap from paper launch to hard launch is too big.If next gen launches exactly a year from Renoir, we'll see it at March/April 2021.
AMD stated that they will release models in time periods suited for the mobile OEMs. This pretty well means annual launches at around the same time period. This is what our clients want, so we will design and release to suit them.This is always the ideal case. Picasso was available in February last year, Renoir will be available in April (probably), so it is more than a year for this generation. The next update could easily slip into a timeframe around June Computex with regards to availability which makes a paper launch in January during CES implausible because the time gap from paper launch to hard launch is too big.
One thing current Intel chips have lot to improve on it battery life. There's still a 30-50% gap.
Great analysis, and you painted a very pretty and rosy scenario for intel.I believe despite the rocky start this will bring on a new future for x86.
The ultramobile market would have been, if this thing were out a couple years ago and tablets were still a trend rather than at saturation level.
It's not going to be much behind with 4+1 cores, Tremont itself should be comparable to current ARM cores aside from Apple's:And the arm guys with 8 cores.
Lakefield is not targeting smartphones though. It is going after premium tablet market. that market is owned by apple. even qualcomm is not doing great in it. check out reviews of MS Surface Pro X reviews.I cant see where intel (or even amd) can have a upper hand in a market where the smartphones guys dominate.
It is a myth that high end smartphones chips cost $30. qualcomm and samsung use leading edge process and their die sizes are not small either. in some ways snapdragon chips are more complex that apples. chinese manufacturers are exceptions since they use off-the-shelf logic from ARM and do not use leading edge process.Well I would be very surprised if it was for Tablet. But Surface Neo seems interesting. Ignoring Apple, most tablet's SoC cost less than $30. With Mediatek's going below $20. Intel® Celeron® N4120 is going for around $100, for manufacturing and rebate we know it could go down to sub $40 as with previous Gemini Lake. But I thought Intel abandoned the idea of low profits low margin SKUs, but At 80mm2+ Die Size with State of the Art packaging I just dont see this being sold at this price point.
Yes. But those smartphones cpus, some of them at least can scale up to service the premium tablet market, they just cant go desktop* yet.Lakefield is not targeting smartphones though. It is going after premium tablet market. that market is owned by apple.
This is why when Gracemont arrives it'll be much better. I'm counting on the "improved vector performance" to mean having AVX support.The right graph tells you the sunny cove core is worth 2 Tremonts so MT will be worth 6 small cores total and ST will punch 50% higher.
Not a bad combo honestly, when the die area used it that of 7.5 to 8 small cores. The bad part is the missing features like AVX etc, probably a thing worth doing only for ultraportable devices.
Microsoft reportedly delays Surface Neo beyond 2020This is why Surface Neo is coming late this year(nothing to do with using Lakefield-R).
The Surface Neo, Microsoft’s dual-screen PC that runs a new operating system called Windows 10X, will miss its planned release date of holiday 2020, according to reports from ZDNet and CNBC. The company is said to have shifted its focus to get Windows 10X to run well on single-screen devices like laptops and 2-in-1s.
Slide 2Moore's law evolution: process returns to two-year cadence.
- substantial yield improvement
- substantial increase in production capacity
- series of 10nm products launching in 2020
- lead product launching in 2021
- complete product portfolio in 2022
- performance improvement every year
A series of new products coming in 2020
ALDER LAKE: 10nm Desktop Processor
TIGER LAKE: 10nm Core Mobile Processor
DG1: First Discrete Graphics Card based on Xe Architecture
ICE LAKE: 10nm Xeon Scalable Processor
SNOW RIDGE: First 5G-Ready 10nm SoC for Base Station
If these slides are true, then Intel is trying to launch a 10nm desktop product in 2020.Given that it's release would be two years from now, you would think they would use 7 nm.
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