Question Intel Core i9-10980XE Can Hit Up To 5.1 GHz OC Across All Cores with "Standard Water Cooling"

[nicalandia]

Intel's Flagship HEDT Core i9-10980XE 'Cascade Lake X' CPU Can Hit Up To 5.1 GHz OC Across All Cores

Intel's upcoming Core i9 10980XE CPU is going to be their flagship HEDT part and the company has just recently slashed pricing to make it competitive to AMD. A report by PCGamesN reveals however that the flagship SKU, the Core i9 10980XE, can actually hit 5.1 GHz across all cores with a standard...

wccftech.com

Is that with the 1 HP Water Chiller that was used before?

Intel: We 'Forgot' to Mention 28-Core, 5-GHz CPU Demo Was Overclocked

We met with Intel and asked a few pointed questions about its now-infamous 28-core CPU demo.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[amrnuke]

Intel's Flagship HEDT Core i9-10980XE 'Cascade Lake X' CPU Can Hit Up To 5.1 GHz OC Across All Cores

Intel's upcoming Core i9 10980XE CPU is going to be their flagship HEDT part and the company has just recently slashed pricing to make it competitive to AMD. A report by PCGamesN reveals however that the flagship SKU, the Core i9 10980XE, can actually hit 5.1 GHz across all cores with a standard...

wccftech.com

Is that with the 1 HP Water Chiller that was used before?

Intel: We 'Forgot' to Mention 28-Core, 5-GHz CPU Demo Was Overclocked

We met with Intel and asked a few pointed questions about its now-infamous 28-core CPU demo.

www.tomshardware.com

"And that, I believe, is all cores. "

So even Intel doesn't know if it's all-core.

Also, not sure why they're using GeekBench to compare HEDT chips, when the test doesn't scale well across cores and is entirely too synthetic to be of much use. Even then, the WCCF image is sourced from an unsourced HotHardware "leak" of results.

 

[Zucker2k]

Also, not sure why they're using GeekBench to compare HEDT chips

I'm sure we'll see where it sits on the HEDT scale once it's released.

 

[Zucker2k]

Is that with the 1 HP Water Chiller that was used before?

Compare that to the celebration in the other thread of a 16c 3950x managing an all core overclock of 4.3GHz on water.

 

[amrnuke]

Compare that to the celebration in the other thread of a 16c 3950x managing an all core overclock of 4.3GHz on water.

Exactly... and it's like... neither of these chips are released yet. Let's just chill out a bit and see what happens.

 

[Kenmitch]

I'm sure we'll see where it sits on the HEDT scale once it's released.

Only thing I can conclude so far is they wouldn't cut the pricing so drastically if they thought they had a clear winner in the end. I guess we'll see the good, bad, and the ugly once they're released along with AMD's offerings. The reviews should at least be interesting....The action will be in the comment sections!

The weird part is it looks like they intentionally avoided equal core counts to AMD's offerings.

 

[Markfw]

Also, comparing real HEDT chips to AMD desktop chips ? I want to see what a 16 or 24 core threadripper 3000 series does against this new Intel chip. INCLUDING pricing comparisons,.

 

[positivedoppler]

Lets see the power consumption numbers. 5ghz all core under 200 watts i be really impressed

 

[Hitman928]

Lets see the power consumption numbers. 5ghz all core under 200 watts i be really impressed

That's not gonna happen, not even close.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Is that with the 1 HP Water Chiller that was used before?

Probably not. Intel used the chiller on a 28c chip that eventually became the W3175. That thing is infamous. This thing will probably "only" put out ~500-600W under the same scenario.

Lets see the power consumption numbers. 5ghz all core under 200 watts i be really impressed

Here's the 9980Xe @ 4.4 GHz:

Intel Core i9-9980XE CPU Review: Still Too Expensive

The high-end desktop hits keep on coming as Intel rolls out its 18-core, 36-thread Core i9-9980XE.

www.tomshardware.com

Under 200 watts? No.

 

[positivedoppler]

Probably not. Intel used the chiller on a 28c chip that eventually became the W3175. That thing is infamous. This thing will probably "only" put out ~500-600W under the same scenario.



Here's the 9980Xe @ 4.4 GHz:

Intel Core i9-9980XE CPU Review: Still Too Expensive

The high-end desktop hits keep on coming as Intel rolls out its 18-core, 36-thread Core i9-9980XE.

www.tomshardware.com

Under 200 watts? No.

so if 4.4 ghz is 384 watts, 5ghz is 400-500 watts? How do you cool that?

 

[Markfw]

so if 4.4 ghz is 384 watts, 5ghz is 400-500 watts? How do you cool that?

As the title says "standard water cooling". 2 420x140 thick rads will provide maybe up to 600 watts. Put a solid copper CPU block, and 6 decent fans and a good pump. I have almost exactly that same setup on one of my 2990wx's, OC'ed to 3.8. It will do 4 ghz, but the temps are getting up there, so 3.8 is pretty good all core 24/7 100% load.

But this 18 core beast@5.1 I would guess is in the 500-600 watt range, so the same cooling I have (mine is only 350 watts@3.8) should do. I run 70c, and their setup on my cooling would most likely be 90c.

Its really hard to extrapolate, so don't hold me to any of this. Just an educated guess.

 

[Ajay]

Is that with the 1 HP Water Chiller that was used before?

“There’s no refrigeration unit, there’s nothing like that,” Walton reassures us. “When we say ‘standard liquid cooling,’ I don’t know the specific one, but nothing out of this world.”

Anyway, this is just early PR, probably based on a 'golden' sample. Outside of professional overclockers and YouTubers, no one is going to doing this.

 

[Accord99]

so if 4.4 ghz is 384 watts, 5ghz is 400-500 watts? How do you cool that?

Gamer Nexus' review of overclocked 7980/9980 XEs shows that 400-500W from a die that's 450mm^2 big can be cooled with a 280mm CLC.Though what Intel really needs to do is spend some money to manually liquid-metal the processors at the factory.

Intel i9-9980XE Review: Disappointing OC Headroom, But Strong Stock Performance | GamersNexus

stub The Intel i9-9980XE is a revamped i9-7980XE with solder and higher out-of-box clocks. It’s also got much higher out-of-the-box thermals as compared to a delidded 7980XE, as you’ll see in our testing, and is disappointingly limited in its overclocking headroom when using practical cooling...

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Another way to look at the 10980XE is that if 5.1/all-core is "achievable," then something like 4.8/all-core should be possible for most enthusiasts without resorting to exotic techniques and equipment.

 

[Ajay]

Though what Intel really needs to do is spend some money to manually liquid-metal the processors at the factory.

They are STIM processors (Solder TIM).

 

[john3850]

With a room temp of 67 I can run blender at 174 watts or 5.0GHz with vcore 1.31v I hit 70 with only one of 3 radiator fans maxed out.
Now summer time next to small ac would be close to 85c.

 

[Zucker2k]

Launched.

Intel product specifications

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ark.intel.com

 

[IEC]

Launched.

Intel product specifications

Intel® product specifications, features and compatibility quick reference guide and code name decoder. Compare products including processors, desktop boards, server products and networking products.

ark.intel.com

For a "launched" product, it's conspicuously absent from retail channels. I don't even see it listed as a product on distributors' websites.

Isn't it expected to be shipping in November?

 

[jpiniero]

For a "launched" product, it's conspicuously absent from retail channels. I don't even see it listed as a product on distributors' websites.

Isn't it expected to be shipping in November?

They may have started to send product to OEMs.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Sounds... interesting? Well, for the Intel aficionados anyways. They've largely lost my business personally, though I'm not against building an Intel rig for someone else that specifies a preference (as long as they're paying, LOL).

 

[Topweasel]

That's not gonna happen, not even close.

Yeah doesn't the 9900k at 4.6 use ~160w? That's without the extra cache and mesh power. Best case you double it (for 2x the cores) then add 33% to get the last 500MHz. So we are talking about closing in on 400w. Worst part is there isn't a great power savings when shutting off cores for each die so the 12c and 14c chips will all be hovering above 300w. Now this isn't impossible to cool, but it isn't going to be easy. It's pretty much all going to require multi rad loops.

 

[Shmee]

I liked the 5930k, that is a good HEDT chip. All these new ones have too many cores and likely wont't do as well in games as an OCed X99 system.

 

[Topweasel]

I liked the 5930k, that is a good HEDT chip. All these new ones have too many cores and likely wont't do as well in games as an OCed X99 system.

Its hard to say. SL-X is significantly down on game perf compared to a SL clock for clock so it really matters how high you have yours. But the core count isn't what is going to hold it back.

 

[DrMrLordX]

so if 4.4 ghz is 384 watts, 5ghz is 400-500 watts? How do you cool that?

Actually, due to voltage and clockspeed scaling, I would expect that 5 GHz Cascade Lake-X to push over 500W. Which is not unheard-of since a 2990WX can get up there as well. As to what you would use to cool it . . . well, I have this thing called a MO-RA3. It's pretty nice. It can cool 200W loads with no fans.

 

[ehume]

Actually, due to voltage and clockspeed scaling, I would expect that 5 GHz Cascade Lake-X to push over 500W. Which is not unheard-of since a 2990WX can get up there as well. As to what you would use to cool it . . . well, I have this thing called a MO-RA3. It's pretty nice. It can cool 200W loads with no fans.

I just looked up the MO-RA3. It looks to be a 3x3 (9 140mm fans) rad, with copper tubes and aluminum fins, "optimised specifically for low-rpm fans." Works, huh?