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Intel Core Duo confusion

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KingWeaver

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ok ive been out of the laptop loop for quite some time now, anyway im soon to be in the market for a laptop for college and ive been waiting on yonah. Now i wasnt really waiting on yonah because it has dual cores but because i thought it was going to be 64bit enabled and i didnt want to purchase a lappy that would be outdated too quickly. But all the news im seeing about the Core duo (yonahs official name if you dont already know) does not mention a 64bit capability. Is the Core duo going to be 64bit capable at launch? If not, does anyone know when intel plans to release a core version that is 64bit ready?
 
Originally posted by: AnandThenMan
Originally posted by: dmens
Maybe because the dual core turions will probably burn a hole in your pants.
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But I'm not wearing any pants.
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LOL...

I'd seriously doubt that Dual-Core turions will "burn a hole in your pants" when they actually come out, even at 90nm, unless he plans on running it at 100% utilization all the time. I dont think it'll match Yonah's power consumption but, due to SOI, it should get close (or even better) power consumption at lower CPU utilizations.
 
Originally posted by: nerp
Yeah it will run cool. C'mon guys. This is 2006.
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and in 2007, cpu's will run soo cool, you would need to heat it up to keep it running. oh the wonders of technology progression. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: KingWeaver
ok ive been out of the laptop loop for quite some time now, anyway im soon to be in the market for a laptop for college and ive been waiting on yonah. Now i wasnt really waiting on yonah because it has dual cores but because i thought it was going to be 64bit enabled and i didnt want to purchase a lappy that would be outdated too quickly. But all the news im seeing about the Core duo (yonahs official name if you dont already know) does not mention a 64bit capability. Is the Core duo going to be 64bit capable at launch? If not, does anyone know when intel plans to release a core version that is 64bit ready?
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Yonah doesn't have 64bit. Merom is supposed to have it, but thats not out till later this year. I have 3 cpu's that have 64 bit capabilities, but don't use it on any of them, XP64 still doesn't have good driver support, nor are there many 64bit enabled programs for it either. I plan on getting a yonah based laptop once I can get rid of a couple of my desktops.
 
Ok let me clear this up First off it cant be turion because i plan to use this for gaming as well as school work therefore i want to get a model with a 7800gtx go and there are no turion models with that graphics chipset. Now there are models with Athlon 64's with the 7800gtx go but they are behemoths at almost 13lbs vs the 8lb pentium M models. Also I do not plan on using a 64bit OS at the time of purchase but like I said I plan on making this lappy last awhile (at least two years) and during that time I will be upgrading to Vista 64bit (when its released), now i know there will be a 32bit version of vista, but i dont see the point in upgrading an OS only to have a prettier interface and no real functionality differences. Also thanks for bringing up Merom if it is to be released 3rd quarter 06 than that is about the time ill be buying one anyway (classes start in late august).
 
Do you really think 64bit Windows will "handle" differently than 32bit Windows in desktop functionality?
 
Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Why not get a Turion ? Its 64 bit, and will have dual-core soon to.
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Because you cannot buy a DC Turion now?
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I said Turion now, or WILL HAVE dual-core SOON TOO.

Please read before posting. If he wants 64 bit lappie now, then Turion. If he wants 64-bit and dual-core, Turion DC later.
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Why not get a Turion ? Its 64 bit, and will have dual-core soon to.
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Because you cannot buy a DC Turion now?
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I said Turion now, or WILL HAVE dual-core SOON TOO.

Please read before posting. If he wants 64 bit lappie now, then Turion. If he wants 64-bit and dual-core, Turion DC later.
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Using your logic, he can have DC now, Yonah, or 64bit DC later, Merom.
 
Not to mention there has been very few published details on dual core turions... what kind of person recommends a total unknown? Well, I know, LOL.
 
Originally posted by: dmens
Not to mention there has been very few published details on dual core turions... what kind of person recommends a total unknown? Well, I know, LOL.
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Its just a low voltage X2, whats to know ? duh.... Its exactly the same as when the X2 vs single core came out. Intel is the one with the design problems AT THE MOMENT. I grant you Yonah is a major leap for Intel, but if he want dual-core and 64-bit, I think Turion DC will be out before and Intel DC 64 bit, and there is no chance of it being a problem. IMO
 
Yeah, Intel is the one with design problems on desktop/server. But we're talking about mobile aren't we? What I want to know is if the dc turion will be able to have the same (or better) power draw than its predecessor, while adding another core and increasing both single thread and MT performance simultaneously. Considering how they are using the same core as before, and we already know how that scales with voltage, and extrapolate its performance... I have my doubts. Don't know how you can blithely assert "no chance of it being a problem".

On top of that, if 64-bit capability were an issue, I would suggest waiting for merom, not recommend, because merom specs have not been published either. But from what I have seen so far, it will rock.
 
Actually yes...I do believe it will handle differently. The 64bit memory extensions should make the over all feel of the machine snappier, just like windows xp64 did when i tried it on my main desktop rig (3700+ sand diego), the only reason i dropped it was because some of my older games didnt run on it.
 
also like i said before i do not need the lappy right now... i dont start school untill august 28th 06 (go maine maritime!) so ill just wait for merom
 
Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: dmens
Not to mention there has been very few published details on dual core turions... what kind of person recommends a total unknown? Well, I know, LOL.
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Its just a low voltage X2, whats to know ? duh.... Its exactly the same as when the X2 vs single core came out. Intel is the one with the design problems AT THE MOMENT. I grant you Yonah is a major leap for Intel, but if he want dual-core and 64-bit, I think Turion DC will be out before and Intel DC 64 bit, and there is no chance of it being a problem. IMO
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Define: soon!? Could be tomorrow, could be in six month? Is it even on their roadmap?
 
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