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Intel claims it invented 64-32 technology

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Intel claims it invented 64-32 technology

We contacted AMD for comment on Intel's claims. Richard Baker, marketing manager for AMD Northern Europe, said: "That's interesting. It's only the last beta build [of Windows XP Pro 64] that has been certified for Intel's Nocona". Previous versions of the preview OS were certified only for AMD microprocessors, he said.
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Why am I suddenly feel rather disgusted with Intel??
 
Dont get your panties in a wad....

What we see released is hardly when and if they have played with the technology. Amd's response is just as lame since most know it takes years to perfect a cpu design and bring it to market so there os response dont mean shite!!!. Chances are since INtel has had a 64 bit itanium for years they have toyed with the idea of 64-32 and maybe have even played with it...Just their marketing boys made a calculated mistake of making sure they had a 64bit to market to compete with amd's regardless if they thought it was useless to the consumer...heck half the crap they sell us is prety much useless to the consumer, or at least the consumer surfing the net and writing some word docs....

YOu know nothing about what really happens so save your disgust .....


Whether or not it is true or not most of use wouldn't know so dont waste your time....

Heck look at that moron democrat Al gore...remember he invented the internet...
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Heck look at that moron democrat Al gore...remember he invented the internet...
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You know he never said that, right? His statement (that's been take grossly out of context for years now) pertains to how he pushed legislation into allowing the internet to take shape.

 
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Duvie
Heck look at that moron democrat Al gore...remember he invented the internet...
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You know he never said that, right? His statement (that's been take grossly out of context for years now) pertains to how he pushed legislation into allowing the internet to take shape.
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Except when he was running for president he was asked that directly in an interview and though he sidestepped it a bit I heard him say he was the "most instrumental" person in getting the internet off the ground....then it pretty much became a joke...Hey like him!!!

I know he actually never came up with the actual theory of data across the telephone lines and pipe through our modems into what it is today...BUt I have never seen a guy toot his horn more....

I always felt the democrats were behind the internet so those degenerates can get their porn faster...LOL!!!!

 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Duvie
Heck look at that moron democrat Al gore...remember he invented the internet...
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You know he never said that, right? His statement (that's been take grossly out of context for years now) pertains to how he pushed legislation into allowing the internet to take shape.
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Except when he was running for president he was asked that directly in an interview and though he sidestepped it a bit I heard him say he was the "most instrumental" person in getting the internet off the ground....then it pretty much became a joke...Hey like him!!!

I know he actually never came up with the actual theory of data across the telephone lines and pipe through our modems into what it is today...BUt I have never seen a guy toot his horn more....

I always felt the democrats were behind the internet so those degenerates can get their porn faster...LOL!!!!
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Well... since it is so far off topic. I do believe it is taken somewhat out of context and what he actually said was

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet"

I'm sure what he "meant" was that he supported technology initiatives related to the advancement of the web (internet).

However, that isn't what he said. He said that I (he) took initiative in creating the internet. Oops.

 
Since the 2 companies have agreements to share pretty much everything, I see little point in worrying about who invented what.

Intel didn't believe 64bits would get to the desktop as early as AMD beleived it would, so it's natural that AMD was ahead and that XP64 was certified for Nocona later.
 
Originally posted by: Duvie
Dont get your panties in a wad....

What we see released is hardly when and if they have played with the technology. Amd's response is just as lame since most know it takes years to perfect a cpu design and bring it to market so there os response dont mean shite!!!. Chances are since INtel has had a 64 bit itanium for years they have toyed with the idea of 64-32 and maybe have even played with it...Just their marketing boys made a calculated mistake of making sure they had a 64bit to market to compete with amd's regardless if they thought it was useless to the consumer...heck half the crap they sell us is prety much useless to the consumer, or at least the consumer surfing the net and writing some word docs....

YOu know nothing about what really happens so save your disgust .....


Whether or not it is true or not most of use wouldn't know so dont waste your time....

Heck look at that moron democrat Al gore...remember he invented the internet...
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Of course we know that AMD defined and took the initiative to x86-64.
Any other claim is ridiculous.

And yes, Intel have played with the idea off and on. Nothing remarkable about that. But playing is not inventing.
The original idea for any 64-32 probably dates halfway back to the stoneage. And who knows which person got it first. I doubt it was someone at Intel though. I'd rather look towards Motorola, Sun and IBM for a bet.

Intel may use their original idea for emulating IA32 (x86) on their EPIC, currently IA64 (Itanium) architecture as an excuse for some marketing bull. But frankly, that too is just ridiculous.

I mean, what about DEC then? I seem to remember there was some binary conversion tool to run x86 apps on the Alpha. I'm sure there's been other 32 to 64 bit tools and emulators as well. What about Sun, haven't they had some emulator project?

P.S. (Also, you may want to keep your political... eh, uh... stuff, to those forums, please?)
 
it doesn't matter who went to market first. its who owns any existing patents and when they are dated. for all we know, Intel could own plenty of 64-bit tech patents dating back to the 70's....😉
 
Intel claimed nothing. The Inquirer claimed that a person who works for Intel made a comment that "Intel's "competitor" [took] advantage of the work it had done. He said that the competitor announced its move into the 64-32 arena largely based on the work Intel had done."

That is not a claim that Intel "invented" combination 32-bit, 64-bit microprocessors - a claim that would be ludicrous since the DEC Alpha could run 32-bit and 64-bit and was released in 1992, and there were several other multi-chip 64-bit microprocessors before that. This is merely a claim, by one Intel employee, that AMD benefited from Intel's work on the Itanium product family. Which you may or may not agree with, but is certainly less controversial than the title of the article at the The Inquirer.

* Definitely Not Speaking For Intel Corp. *
 
Originally posted by: pm
Intel claimed nothing. The Inquirer claimed that a person who works for Intel made a comment that "Intel's "competitor" [took] advantage of the work it had done. He said that the competitor announced its move into the 64-32 arena largely based on the work Intel had done."

That is not a claim that Intel "invented" combination 32-bit, 64-bit microprocessors - a claim that would be ludicrous since the DEC Alpha could run 32-bit and 64-bit and was released in 1992, and there were several other multi-chip 64-bit microprocessors before that. This is merely a claim, by one Intel employee, that AMD benefited from Intel's work on the Itanium product family. Which you may or may not agree with, but is certainly less controversial than the title of the article at the The Inquirer.

* Definitely Not Speaking For Intel Corp. *
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Hmm, I suppose the guys comment was partially correct, AMD definitely built x86-64 upon x86, which Intel had made.
 
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