So, to quote you, "Can you stop spreading BS? Or at least stop making stuff up."
So, to quote you, "Can you stop spreading BS? Or at least stop making stuff up."
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Let me quote that properly for you:
Prove that it is NOT semi-custom, and its not a done deal.Again, show me a roadmap where Van Gogh exists?
Then I will agree that its not meaningful. If you can't Will you agree that it is a done deal, and Van Gogh is a Semi-Custom product?
You didn't quote it properly. You went back and edited your post AFTER your original post and I started my reply.
So you have no proof of any of this. I'm not here to prove your FUD. You have to prove it is even real. I can't prove something that isn't real. You are making claims that it is a "done deal" and that Apple made an order with AMD. Yet you have no proof.
FUD at this point and making stuff up.
So you have no proof of any of this. I'm not here to prove your FUD. You have to prove it is even real. I can't prove something that isn't real. You are making claims that it is a "done deal" and that Apple made an order with AMD. Yet you have no proof.
FUD at this point and making stuff up.
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So you cannot point to any Roadmap that disproves that Van Gogh is Semi-Custom APU.
Good. Now we can settle, that it is Semi-Custom product, that Apple ordered it. Thank you.
If it would be Semi-Custom product that Apple did NOT ordered, it WOULD NOT APPEAR IN APPLE KEXTS.
It is this simple. How hard for people is it to understand this?
LOL, you've gone back and edited past post where you made claims. Way to go spreading FUD and lies.
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Which one? Start countering my arguments, based on facts, and what is happening.
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One more time, for those who are thinking less bright.
If Van Gogh is not semi-custom product, it would appear on ANY AMD Roadmap.
If Van Gogh is Semi-Custom product that Apple did not ordered - it would not appear in Apple's MacOS Kexts.
Which leaves Van Gogh as Semi-Custom product that Apple ordered.
Why would you order design and manufacturing of Semi-Custom APU, that is bigger than Renoir, if you would not want to release a product with it?
We know for years that Apple is ditching Intel from their comptuers. With what options this leaves us? AMD and ARM.
Why would Apple order AMD's Semi-Custom chip if they would go to ARM?
Why would you put all of previous versions of AMD APUs into your OSes kexts? Because they are cheapest and fastest way you can test stability of the software on the hardware, and optimize if it is required.
I have put this on other forums, and I will put it once again. Try to disprove anything from this, Then I will agree, that it is not a done deal. I will say, that I was wrong.
But Im not. Apple is ditching Intel, for AMD, and Van Gogh is first shoe that has dropped. End of the story. And end of Off-Top.
P.S. Just because Apple hasn't announced anything does not mean, that ditching Intel for AMD is not a done deal at Apple. Period.
If Van Gogh is not semi-custom product, it would appear on ANY AMD Roadmap.
If Van Gogh is Semi-Custom product that Apple did not ordered - it would not appear in Apple's MacOS Kexts.
Which leaves Van Gogh as Semi-Custom product that Apple ordered.
Why would you order design and manufacturing of Semi-Custom APU, that is bigger than Renoir, if you would not want to release a product with it?
We know for years that Apple is ditching Intel from their comptuers. With what options this leaves us? AMD and ARM.
Why would Apple order AMD's Semi-Custom chip if they would go to ARM?
Why would you put all of previous versions of AMD APUs into your OSes kexts? Because they are cheapest and fastest way you can test stability of the software on the hardware, and optimize if it is required.
I have put this on other forums, and I will put it once again. Try to disprove anything from this, Then I will agree, that it is not a done deal. I will say, that I was wrong.
But Im not. Apple is ditching Intel, for AMD, and Van Gogh is first shoe that has dropped. End of the story. And end of Off-Top.
P.S. Just because Apple hasn't announced anything does not mean, that ditching Intel for AMD is not a done deal at Apple. Period.
Per forum rules "If you have FACTS on a thread, link to a reputable source and state your summation. Anything else not pertinent to a thread is probably infractionable. "
The onus is on you to prove this is a "done deal" and that Apple actually placed an order with AMD." I asked for proof and you want me to prove it for you. You're making unsubstantiated claims. Further more, you're telling others not to post FUD and saying they are lying.
The onus is on you to prove this is a "done deal" and that Apple actually placed an order with AMD." I asked for proof and you want me to prove it for you. You're making unsubstantiated claims. Further more, you're telling others not to post FUD and saying they are lying.
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Okay guys, this is an Intel thread - how about we move this discussion to a new or more appropriate thread. This is more than just a few OT posts. Thanks
Agreed. None of this has to do with the thread and has no place in here.
Is IA64 interchangeable with x86-64 now?
=> Intel IA64 Big Core Out Of Order cluster’s Reservation Station microarchitecture
=> adding new functionality to the simulation models for future IA64 CPUs (Willow Cove, Golden Cove, ...).
=> Intel IA64 Big Core Out Of Order cluster’s Reservation Station microarchitecture
=> adding new functionality to the simulation models for future IA64 CPUs (Willow Cove, Golden Cove, ...).
An Ice Lake Macbook showed up on geekbench 5 this morning:
ICLRVP1,1 - Geekbench
Benchmark results for an ICLRVP1,1 with an Intel 0000 processor.
browser.geekbench.com
Could be, but i doubt it. Getting an ICL engineering sample with LPDDR4 to work on an old Apple motherboard would be a pretty monumental task. If it's fake it's likely spoofed.
edit: This is a reference validation platform which would mean it came straight from Intel.
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Nah, its either spoofed or real. There are very few people out there with RVP boards and this is probably the missing Ice Lake Y RVP board that was spotted in May.
edit: Also keep in mind RVP boards are for extremely early designs, and many products tested with them never make it to market. Google had a few ICLRVP products that were canceled.
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You would think that it Apple was going to revive the Macbook with Icelake, it would have been released by now. The specs do fit the i5 1030G7.
Since it's a RVP this could very well be a test system that found it's way to the public some how. Google had some similar Ice Lake RVP products that ended up being canceled.
However, Apple is extraordinarily slow at updating hardware in their products sometimes, so who knows?
Yeah probably would have to be, now that I think about it. The Macbook was built for 4.5 W TDP instead of you know, 9 W. The Air was updated in July so waiting for Tiger Lake-Y would be more realistic... that is if Intel could make enough.
I don't think there is a replacement next year. Another Skylake based refresh would be pointless.
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