Info Intel ARC Alchemist owners thread. Now 75 games tested, retested, and counting. Includes productivity experiences. Feel free to add your results.

[Tup3x]

By the way, it looks like Intel might do frame extrapolation instead of interpolation. Quite interesting to read (pdf).

Intel details ExtraSS framework featuring frame extrapolation technology - VideoCardz.com

Intel proposes ExtraSS framework with frame extrapolation technology Intel might be gearing up to enter the ongoing competition in enhancing image quality and boosting performance in modern graphics. In a recent research paper from SIGGRAPH Asia 2023 in Sydney, Intel is introducing a new...

videocardz.com

 

[igor_kavinski]

In some render time performance tests, Intel showcased a system running an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU with an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 GPU.

There are Ryzen systems inside Intel buildings???

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Tim with a some high praise for XeSS

Reflects my own experiences.

 

[Dayman1225]

There are Ryzen systems inside Intel buildings???

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Lol, there is likely EPYC systems as well to validate their DC GPUs, NICs etc on

 

[Pohemi]

Baldur's Gate 3 tested @ 4K (played approx an hour) with medium-high settings. Ran flawlessly, but I didn't attempt to crank it up to highest settings. I can't imagine it would have choked, but IDK.

Anywho - passed.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Added to the results, thanks @Pohemi

 

[Heartbreaker]

Tim with a some high praise for XeSS

Reflects my own experiences.

And note, that's just on Third Party cards. It's even better running on Intel Cards.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

And note, that's just on Third Party cards. It's even better running on Intel Cards.

Thanks for pointing that out. I failed to comment on hardware XeSS not getting a proper review or comparison to DLSS recently. My A380 especially benefits from having a good upscaler. Allows me to use a RT reflections in some games e.g. the Spiderman games, and still have playable fps.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

ETAprime put the ASRock LP slot powered A380 through its paces. As some of us have said for months, when it's $100 it's a killer deal.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Updated with a couple of games on the A380.

 

[psolord]

I received a new driver alert for my office's 13500 and I forgot to disable the ARC control installation, which is also used for the UHD770. I was disabling it, because of the stupid mandatory locking of some key combinations, like ALT+I/O/P.

I gladly found out that they have now fixed it. You can both remap them, or use ctrl+alt or something or disable them altogether, which is great! Seriously this was a deal breaker for me.

 

[DavidC1]

I read somewhere that the cost of Intel cutting staff is that for graphics it's moving to a 2-year cadence.

I think Battlemage is Q3, if not likely Q4. It should be a very decent improvement as Jupiter Sound, the Xe2 based successor to now-cancelled Arctic Sound was said to aim leadership perf/W. Obviously Alchemist is nowhere near that.

 

[bryanW1995]

Watching task manager and disk access will prove this point. What pisses me off is the loading seems throttled to spinner speed no matter the disk being used. I know my M2 speed capability and it just fiddles around at about 10% of the available bandwidth while loading. Once it hits the GPU ram the disk is idle. This is the reason I advise people not to waste time with higher end drives just for a specific use like a game. Once you get beyond sata drives it doesn't make much difference even booting the os. To make use of the speed you need to be doing transactional data like video editing or a DB that's constantly changing.

Huh, I never thought of that.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Huh, I never thought of that.

The boot time of the OS is mostly dependent on the bios of the motherboard/chipset.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The boot time of the OS is mostly dependent on the bios of the motherboard/chipset.

What? You mean the system right? Once the BIOS hands off control to the OS, it doesn't figure in the picture anymore.

 

[Hans Gruber]

What? You mean the system right? Once the BIOS hands off control to the OS, it doesn't figure in the picture anymore.

Between the time when the bios microcode is activated by the power button. The time between the handoff to the OS is where the delay comes from booting. AMD PC's are slower to boot than Intel PC's in my experience. It's not a big deal but people think their SSD is what is slowing their PC boot times.

 

[DavidC1]

Between the time when the bios microcode is activated by the power button. The time between the handoff to the OS is where the delay comes from booting. AMD PC's are slower to boot than Intel PC's in my experience. It's not a big deal but people think their SSD is what is slowing their PC boot times.

They need a radical overhaul to the way it's handled in the OS before they can speed it up.

Also, some things are limited by the small file 4K random speeds, which isn't faster on a Gen 5 SSD vs a Gen 1.

 

[Ranulf]

Between the time when the bios microcode is activated by the power button. The time between the handoff to the OS is where the delay comes from booting. AMD PC's are slower to boot than Intel PC's in my experience. It's not a big deal but people think their SSD is what is slowing their PC boot times.

Sure but the point being dicussed there was game loading screens with forced sponsor logos.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Borderlands 3 runs fine in DX12 mode. Updated the OP.

 

[Shmee]

Does GZDoom work? Could test on both OpenGL and Vulkan.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Does GZDoom work? Could test on both OpenGL and Vulkan.

I have the OG Doom and Doom 2 on Steam. What else do I need to do? Is this what I want? https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/releases/tag/g4.11.3

I'll need directions for installing, or a read me as well. Thanks for any help. Happy to test it out when it is installed and sorted.

 

[Shmee]

I have the OG Doom and Doom 2 on Steam. What else do I need to do? Is this what I want? https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/releases/tag/g4.11.3

I'll need directions for installing, or a read me as well. Thanks for any help. Happy to test it out when it is installed and sorted.

Yeah that's it. To play Doom or Doom 2t, first extract GZDoom into a folder, then browse to where you have classic Doom installed and copy the Doom.wad and Doom2.wad files into GZDoom folder so that GZDoom can recognize them and load the desired game. You can also check out many classic Doom mods and map packs on moddb.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

@Shmee - Thanks for the help dude.

Added to OP. Both Vulkan and OpenGL are flawless with the default 200fps frame cap. I didn't try the embedded systems OpenGL as that seemed pointless on such powerful hardware.

 

[Dayman1225]

Intel releasing a driver aimed at DX11 games, upto 30% boost https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-t...ver-with-30-average-boost-for-many-dx11-games

 

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Intel releasing a driver aimed at DX11 games, upto 30% boost https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-t...ver-with-30-average-boost-for-many-dx11-games

30% in games like Watch Dogs 2 would be impactful on the experience. I know I certainly don't want to download sketchy cracked versions of games to get around easy anti-cheat. As EAC keeps DXVK from working.

More important than the performance uplift will be if it can even out the frame pacing. That game and 2013 Tomb Raider for instance, would play fine if the horribad pacing were resolved in DX11 mode. DXVK fixes things in the vast majority of titles, but ARC is shipping in OEM systems, and it cannot be expected for owners to jump through hoops to get their games working properly.

Of course it is impressive advancement; Intel fine blueberry wine.