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Intel AMD Agreement.

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stef8

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In next week AMD Intel agreement will expire. What will happen? They will sign new one or maybe they extend this?
 
AMD Exec #1: "Hey guys, should we renew this cross-licensing 'thing' or go out of business?"

AMD Exec #2: "Lets sign it and stay in business."

AMD Exec #1: "OK, was just checking..."

😛
 
john5220 said:
is there any benefit in them not signing this agreement?
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Honestly, if they decided to not sign the licensing agreement, that would most likely signify a desperation move. If AMD wanted to get out of x86 and get a one-time cash lump-sum, Intel might agree to that.

If they intend to produce and stay in the x86 game, I cannot think of any good reasons not to sign. Other might have more info...
 
AMD cannot make x86 chips and Intel cannot make x86-64 chips? Hmm. Which would that hurt worse?

I know, very likely not this simplistic, just saying...
 
Denithor said:
AMD cannot make x86 chips and Intel cannot make x86-64 chips? Hmm. Which would that hurt worse?

I know, very likely not this simplistic, just saying...
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I would think the agreement has some MAD (mutually assured destruction) language built-in to prevent such issues, otherwise we would likely have seen this power-play earlier.
 
exar333 said:
AMD Exec #1: "Hey guys, should we renew this cross-licensing 'thing' or go out of business?"

AMD Exec #2: "Lets sign it and stay in business."

AMD Exec #1: "OK, was just checking..."

😛
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Also...

Intel Exec #1: "Hey guys, should we renew this cross-licensing 'thing' or face an anti-trust lawsuit?"

Intel Exec #2: "Lets sign it and stay one business."

Intel Exec #1: "OK, was just checking..."
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It's hard to overstate how important AMD is to Intel's bottom line. There is no way this won't get renewed.
 
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mrmt said:
That ship has sailed. Nobody will break up Intel because they have the entire ARM ecosystem to compete with them.
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I don't understand how what you wrote addresses what you quoted. He's saying that Intel will agree to any extensions because they need it, not that some outside entity will force anything on anybody.
 
Atreidin said:
I don't understand how what you wrote addresses what you quoted. He's saying that Intel will agree to any extensions because they need it, not that some outside entity will force anything on anybody.
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Except that the premise that 'they need it' is based on an outside entity forcing something on them if they don't have it...
 
mrmt said:
That ship has sailed. Nobody will break up Intel because they have the entire ARM ecosystem to compete with them.
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The PC market is still an $35B business. You don't want that to be governed by a monopolist, do you?
 
witeken said:
The PC market is still an $35B business. You don't want that to be governed by a monopolist, do you?
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I assume you mean x86. Because a PC can be something else.

Its an effective monopol already. And it reached a point where competition doesnt add anything.
 
Atreidin said:
I don't understand how what you wrote addresses what you quoted. He's saying that Intel will agree to any extensions because they need it, not that some outside entity will force anything on anybody.
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Intel will probably sign it because no judge would allow AMD to go out of business because of an expired agreement, not because Intel needs AMD for any competitive concerns.
 
Its not good for any company's business if this doesn't get renewed.

That said, I never fully understood why Intel so staunchly refused to cross-license the necessary IP with Nvidia.

Its not like Nvidia had (or has) the resources necessary to create an Intel-killer x86 CPU, and Intel sure could have used some of Nvidia's graphics IP.
 
Idontcare said:
Its not good for any company's business if this doesn't get renewed.

That said, I never fully understood why Intel so staunchly refused to cross-license the necessary IP with Nvidia.

Its not like Nvidia had (or has) the resources necessary to create an Intel-killer x86 CPU, and Intel sure could have used some of Nvidia's graphics IP.
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To my recollection Intel is already cross-licensing Nvidia graphic's IP patents so their own homegrown graphics won't break Nvidia's patents. I forgot what Nviida gets out of this deal.
 
Idontcare said:
Its not good for any company's business if this doesn't get renewed.

That said, I never fully understood why Intel so staunchly refused to cross-license the necessary IP with Nvidia.

Its not like Nvidia had (or has) the resources necessary to create an Intel-killer x86 CPU, and Intel sure could have used some of Nvidia's graphics IP.
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I'm still not sure why Intel didn't buy NVIDIA, AMD, or ImgTec to get its hands on some really good graphics IP and talent.

The Gen. X GPUs are getting a lot better, but, IMO, it won't be until Gen. 9 or Gen. 10 that it has a shot of being competitive with the likes of NV, ImgTec, etc.
 
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