apparently intel is moving up releasing the 845D chipset to november, but that doesn't mean that motherboards with the chipset will be coming out before jan 1, 2002. intel is still bound by contract to rambus not to release it, so the news just means that intel is going to ship them early. this move is because there was/is a drought of 845s--OEMs ran out and intel could not meet demand. also, intel is also not meeting demand on their 1.7, 1.8, and 2.0 GHz processors. all and all, intel is running a sh*t operation over there... glad i'm an AMD man =)