intel 815E chipset motherboards

[princejoe]

Hi, I am consider buying a motherboard for my PIII 600mhz, and after all the researching I've done on the internet, I've decided these several motherboards are on top of my list, I would like to have your advices on it, thanks.

1, Asus CUSL2-C
2, Asus TUSL2-C
I know the above two boards are pretty much same except that the TUSL2-C can be used with Tualatin CPUs, but the CUSL2-C can't. My question is are they the same in terms of performance, overclocking, stability, and features...
3, MSI 815E pro
4, MSI 815EP Pro
again, I think the above two boards are based on the same chip, but one is called E while the other is called EP, are there any differences between the two?
5, Gigabyte GA-6OXE
6, Gigabyte GA-6OXM7E

 

[oldfart]

E has integrated video as well as an AGP slot. EP has no built in video. Also check out the Gigabyte GA-60XET. Really sweet board with lots of overclocking features.

 

[Hankysmoo]

I recommend the Asus Cusl2-c unless ur gonna upgrade to a tualatin later...the Asus cusl2-c is nice and stable.

 

[princejoe]

thanks for the feedbacks, guys...

oldfart, is Gigabyte GA-60XET also based intel 815 chipset?

Hankysmoo, the reason holding me back from getting Cusl2-c is that I am not sure if will upgrade to tualatin. On one hand, if the price of tualatin CPU drops somedays which we never know, I would probably upgrade it from PIII 1 Ghz, that way I can just pull out 1 Ghz and put in the tualatin, I would have a faster machine without having to buy a new motherboard, new memore and all the components. I don't understand why tualatin is still so expensive tho. On the other hand, I thought eventho the Cusl2-c and Tusl2-c are based on the same chipset, and other than Cusl2 can't used tualatin, the performance and overclockability are different in each motherboard, right?

Just wondering, is tualatin much more powerful than PIII Ghz?
thanks

 

[oldfart]

Yes, the Gigabyte is an 815E. Even if you never get a Tualatin, you should get a board that supports it. It doesn't cost any extra. If you upgrade from the PIII 600, a Tualatin would be a good one. The new Celerons are Tualatin CPUs with the same 256k cache as a PIII, but run on a 100 MHz bus. This makes them great overclocking CPU's. For instance a 1.0A "Tualeron" on a 133 MHZ bus = 1.33 GHz. On a 150 MHz bus, 1.5 GHz. A Tualeron 1.1A on a 133 MHz bus = 1.46 MHz. These are very cheap CPU's, $85 for the 1.0A and $100 for the 1.1A retail boxed.

 

[markrb]

The TUSL2-C is the same board as the CUSLC-2, exept that it supports more CPU's.
I had a CUSLC-2 that died on me and it was replaced with the TUSL2-C.
Not saying that the first board was bad, just got a bad one.
No stability or compatbility issues with either board.
I was able to overclock just a little more on the TUSL2-C, but that
could have been just the typical slight difference between any two boards.
In the case with both boards if I ran the PCI at anything over 37Mhz my
IBM drive would corrupt.
I would go with the TU board if you go Asus, just for more options.

Mark

 

[princejoe]

thanks for the response, guys...

I have pretty much everything except the motherboard, the power supply and case. So all I needed is a motherboard and a case. I was thinking of upgrade my PIII 600 mhz to PIII 1Ghz if the 1 Ghz price is good, that way I don't have to buy a new system except the CPU. The PIII 1.13 an 1.2 are tualatins, they are so expensive that they cost more than the P4 CPUs, if they weren't that expensive, I would have planned to ugrade to 1.13 or 1.2 instead of 1Ghz.

Oldfart, is Gigabyte motherboard u have compatible to tualatin? I thought only PIII 1.13 and 1.2 are tualatin, right? I didn't know the celerons have tualatin as well. Isn't the celerons are not as fast or powerful as the PIII? wouldn't it be a slower system if I put in a celeron CPU instead of my PIII 600?

Markrb, since u had used both CUSL2-C and TUSL2-C, what do u think of both motherboard? how was the performances of each motherboard? Do they look exactly the same?

By the way, just want to let u guys know that TUSL2 is cheaper than the CUSL2 because there is no built in video or sound card on it.

 

[boyRacer]

the TUSL2/TUSL2-C and the CUSL2/CUSL2-C boards all look alike... i have the CUSL2-C and i'm pretty happy with it... coming from a P3B-F. I say go for the TUSL2-C. Check out cusl2-c.com for more people like you... its practically a forum just for that board... most of them at least.

 

[markrb]

I have the TU in a box sitting next to me. I upgraded to an AMD XP CPU last month.
Too bad the board is sold already. I only used it for about a month.
Both the CU and TU looked very much alike and both were stable.
I could OC the TU just a tad more, maybe 1 or 2 Mhz at most.
Good board. I don't know if I would pay $100 for one now though.
For that you can get a newer board that supports a P4 or AMD XP.
I know new memory though, but everything else the same.
Weigh the pro's and cons. For about $100-$150 more you can get a newer board,
faster CPU and faster memory.
The CPU and Motherboard costs are very close. Just up the ante for some memory.

If you decide to go with one of these boards look on ebay for one.

Mark

 

[princejoe]

thanks for the feedbacks, boyracer and Markrb.

Since CUSL2-C is not compatible with tualatin, I think the fastest CPU I can put in is PIII 1Ghz, right? How much faster I can overclock it to?

as for the TUSL2-C, how many celerons are made with tualatin have came out? if I do overclock them, would it be more faster and powerful than the PIII 1ghz?

 

[AndyHui]

All Celerons at 1.2GHz and above are Tualatins.

Tualatin Celerons are now also available at 1GHz and 1.1GHz, although these are denoted as 1.0AGHz and 1.1AGHz.

I suggest you go with the TUSL2-C.

Tualatin Celerons are effectively Pentium III processors under a different name. These Celerons feature 256KB of 8-way L2 cache. The only difference between Pentium IIIs and Celerons now is the FSB: 133 for P3s and 100 for Celerons.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

<< All Celerons at 1.2GHz and above are Tualatins.

Tualatin Celerons are now also available at 1GHz and 1.1GHz, although these are denoted as 1.0AGHz and 1.1AGHz.

I suggest you go with the TUSL2-C.

Tualatin Celerons are effectively Pentium III processors under a different name. These Celerons feature 256KB of 8-way L2 cache. The only difference between Pentium IIIs and Celerons now is the FSB: 133 for P3s and 100 for Celerons. >>

uh...some of these PIII Tualatins are 512KB L2 <edit> S versions and Mobile.

 

[AndyHui]

I know. I deliberately left out the Pentium III-S processors.

 

[princejoe]

Andyhui, would I be able to overclock the tualatin celerons with the TUSL2-C? I've never been done any overclocking before, but I think I will try it this time, do u know if this motherboard is good on overclocking? would it be stable? Thanks

 

[princejoe]

any feedbacks would be greatly appreciated, thanks

 

[AndyHui]

Yes, you can overclock the Tualatin Celerons using the ASUS TUSL2(-C) board.

 

[princejoe]

Andyhui, which one is better on overclocking, the CUS2-C or TUSL2-C?
There are other 815 boards that supports tualatin, but u think TUSL2-C is the best, right?
Thanks

 

[AndyHui]

The TUSL2-C and the CUSL2-C are effectively the same board (they share the same PCB), with the only real difference being Tualatin support on the TUSL2-C.

From what I have seen, there is virtually no difference in overclocking results between the two boards.