Intel 810 and Tualatin Celeron

[KF]

I got this eMachines eTower 633is thing from somebody and I'm checking it out for somebody else that wants it.

It has an 810 chipset, integrated graphics, socket 370, with a 633MHz Coppermine Celeron. It is now up to its max of 256MB with PC133 memory. eMachines says it will take a 100MHz FSB CPU. There ar no settings in the BIOS for CPU or memory. If I upgrade the CPU, should I be worried whether it will handle a 1.3G Tualatin Celeron? Do i810 mobos generally have the right voltages and pins? Or does it go either way?

 

[DieHardware]

If the MB/chipset has no Tualatin support you will have to stick to a coppermine Celeron, or use a Tualatin adapter.

 

[Peter]

None of the 810 series chipsets is Tualatin compatible.

 

[KF]

Thanks for the info.

Checking Tualatin adapters out, and the chip mods, it appears this would be messy and still may not work. Looks like Intel definately did not want poeple to do a Tualatin mod. For myself, I might do it, but I don't want to pass trouble onto someone else.

 

[Assimilator1]

Originally posted by: Peter
None of the 810 series chipsets is Tualatin compatible.

Are you sure they can't be made to work with the S370GU adapter?

 

[bilbois]

I have used three differant tullie adaptes with no problem have 2 machines that max out at pIII 600 running with celeron 1.3 (tullie). Your other option is to find an old celeron 1000 with 128k l2 cache wich is a copermine based cpu with a 100mhz fsb wich can be found on price watch for less than 40 shipped or you could get an actual pIII 100 mhz fsb cpu wich would be like a 850 or 900(900 is rare)

 

[robcy]

Get the 1.4 celeron its had the larger 256 cache and better performance than the 128 cache.

http://www.bzboyz.com/store/product4331.html $48 delivered

you will need an adapter

http://plpadmin.tempdomainname.com/index2.html $24.95 Shipping ????

 

[KF]

Or

$7.79 + 6 shipping = $13.79

But there are further considerations aside from adapting. The Emachine PS fan is 1 inch above the present CPU heatsink, which is tiny (1 1/8 inch high including fan. mini 50mm fan.) The adapter will take 3/8 inch out of that space. The 1.4G Tualatin pulls 32 watts vs. 16 for the 633 Coppermine, so it probably should have a decent heatsink instead of this thing. The smallest decent heatsink/fan combo I can find is 1.9 inches. That would have the HS fan jammed directly against the PS fan. zero clearance. zero air circulation. Maybe if I reversed the HS fan this could work, otherwise no air can circulate.

The PS is 120 watts. It is on the risky side to put in a higher power CPU.

$41 for 1.3 G Celeron at compugeeks.$41 + 14 =$55 to double CPU performance doesn't sound bad. But this emachines thing is never going to perform even marginally OK on games, so what's the point? I tried a basic PCI 3D card (Radeon 7200), and it helps a lot. But still not any good really. It will be a little snappier, but not so it counts for much, in basic apps and web surfing, so why bother?

It needs a better PS, and a different case with room for a decent HS. The mobo is sad, so it needs another mobo. If I do that, there is nothing left from the emachines. Kind of pointless. But it is OK as it is for very basic things.

 

[Zap]

If anyone needs those adaptors that Compgeeks is selling, I've got two spares that I'd be willing to sell for less, just to get rid of them.

 

[Assimilator1]

Err ok ,but you did ask if a Tualie cpu could go in it!