Intel 775 vs AMD AM2 for HTPC

FuryofFive

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in the near future, i have plans on building a HTPC,
ive always been an AMD guy for the most part. but id like something that would run rather smooth,ive noticed when i had a p4 once,it seemed to run very nice.partly due to the Hyper threading.

the question here is,out of any personal experiences, what would you recommend me.
 

v8envy

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I'm using a Xeon 3210 @ 2.66 ghz in my HTPC. Works great, decodes HD DVDs without any video card help (using 7600GT video). While serving up a few VMs. And recording 2 TV shows. And doing f@h. The eventual plan was to downgrade this to a 3 ghz or so E2180, but now I think I won't bother.

But really, if the goal is just smooth 1080p video playback you'll be fine with any old dual core CPU and a HD2400 or HD34XX series video card (assuming windows-based htpc). If you're going the Linux + myth route you'll need a *LOT* more CPU firepower and an nvidia card.

If you only need standard definition video anything at all will work. I've used an AMD 1800+ti4200 for years in that capacity and it was flawless.
 

BlueAcolyte

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There are certain integrated video chips that will offload the processing, but i don't know how effective they are... Like the Asus G35 Intel GMA X3500.
 

v8envy

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Unfortunately the offloading requires compatible hardware AND software. For example, the HD series of ATI cards have hardware to do not only decoding of various codecs (VC1, Mpeg4, etc) but also decryption. One of those combined even with a relatively feeble single core 2 ghz CPU is all you need for smooth 1080p HD playback. For this to happen you need ATI's signed drivers and player software capable of talking to said drivers -- this happens only on windows. The drivers and player also need to be properly signed to maintain an encrypted HDCP path all the way from the disk to your eyeballs once HD disks start enforcing encryption.

None of that exists for Linux. Not a single ATI card or onboard chipset is capable of *any* accelerated playback. Not even Mpeg2. This is completely a driver issue. Closed source drivers don't support the functionality AFAIK, and the specs may never be released to let open source drivers do so.

With NV cards, drivers and players you at least get mpeg2 acceleration. This helps, but doesn't solve the entire decode mpeg4 from optical disk problem. The only solution with open source is to have enough CPU oomph to decode the data streams fast enough to generate 1920x1080x60fpsx24bpp or ~370 megabytes/sec of frame buffer data.

On board video of the G690 helps in that respect for Windows by offering support for quite a few codecs, and the 6 and 7 series nvidia onboard chips help a bit on Linux by offloading motion compensation. But even so, you need macho CPUs for the decrypt&decode phase. A mostly CPU solution means 2.6 ghz or so core2 cpu or equivalent is required. You'll get dropped frames and out of sync audio with only an 3800x2. You should be fine with a 5000X2, but ask and see.
 

Binky

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I've run both an AMD single core 3800+ and an intel E2160. The 2160-2180 chips seem absolutely perfect for an HTPC. The run very cool, overclock very well if desired, and they even come with a reasonably decent (and quiet) heatsink/fan.

But...for the best performance with HDTV, you really should use a dedicated video card. My vote is for the 2600pro/XT video card, or one of the newer ATI 3450-3650 models. An included HDMI adaptor is mandatory...don't buy a card without an included adaptor.
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: FuryofFive
so either way, ill have to get a dedicated card?


No .... not really.

Your best shot would be with the AMD 690g chipset / IGP. The upcoming AMD 790g IGP (this month?) supposedly rolls out with DX10, SM4.0 and UVD.
 

LostPassword

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new integrated amd mobos from nvidia and ati are coming out soon. you can pair that up with the 5400+ brisbane (oem so still need hsf) from newegg.
but if you don't want to wait.
then you can go intel, and just buy the hd3450 for about 50, or the cheaper version of the hd3650 for 80.