Intel 750 PCIe SSD = Worst SSD in the world!

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
Berryracer

Berryracer

Platinum Member
Oct 4, 2006
2,779
1
81
I was cheated by the reviews of this SSD. Yes it gives superb benchmark numbers, it would make you drool over them thinking this is the best SSD made ever since sliced bread.


So when I ordered my Origin PC Millennium, I also added the Intel 750 1.2TB PCIe SSD to the configuration. I received my system, everything works great, benchmarks are great, copying large files from one partition to the other on this Intel 750 PCIe SSD is super fast, it makes you think it's like a RAM Cache because of how fast it is, but that's it!!


The boot up/restart time is super slow! Even slower than an HDD for God's sake!


I then saw many users complaining on the Intel Forums, see: Why is the Intel 750 Slow to boot?


I was checking every day like 5 times waiting for a driver or firmware update that would fix this. I've been doing this for a month until last night I lost hope and faith in Intel. The thing is, it's not just the initializing of the NVMe controller, I can deal with that 5 sec delay at startup but even after it does initialize, the Windows loading screen takes ages even with no software or drivers installed. Installing the latest Intel PCI nvme driver doesn't help this at all.


Example:

Windows 7 on a normal SATA SSD = 10-12 seconds boot
Windows 7 on the Intel 750 PCIe SSD = 25 second boot


Windows 10 on a normal SATA SSD = 8 second boot
Windows 10 on the Intel 750 PCIe SSD = 20 second boot

time-boot-bare.gif



So yesterday I removed this pile of trash SSD and installed my SanDisk Extreme PRO 256GB SSD as the OS drive in addition to my two SanDisk Extreme PRO 960GB SSDs as Data drives and man I felt like I bought a new system!! Now I truly feel the power of my PC! I was crippling my entire experience and performance with this new PC due to this crappy and expensive SSD.


Intel doesn't seem to be the least bothered to fix this problem although this issue should be on their priority list!


The only good thing I think this SSD is for maybe video editors or people who constantly need to copy large data from one partition to the other otherwise this is by far the worst SSD I have ever owned since 5 years. Even my 5 year old LiteOnIT first gen SSD is better than this!


Screw you Intel! Never touching any SSD that has Intel or Samsung on it EVER again! I put it up for sale on a local website here in Dubai hoping I can get back some of the money I wasted on this.


SanDisk/OCZ/Crucial FTW
 
Last edited:
G

gus6464

Golden Member
Nov 10, 2005
1,848
32
91
What's wrong with Samsung? Why 1TB 850 EVO is fantastic. Windows 10 boots in 5 seconds.
 
Berryracer

Berryracer

Platinum Member
Oct 4, 2006
2,779
1
81
gus6464 said:
What's wrong with Samsung? Why 1TB 850 EVO is fantastic. Windows 10 boots in 5 seconds.
Click to expand...
Samsung is a company that does not respect or value its customers.

1) The popular 840 EVO slowdown issue on old files. Even though they did release a firmware that would fix this, they totally ignored the mSATA version and till this date there is no firmware update to fix it. My $500 USD that I spent on my 840 EVO 1TB mSATA is burned.

2) They released a firmware update for the 850 PRO a while back that actually crippled the performance and bricked 100s of SSDs so they quickly pulled that firmware down. Now I was one of the lucky ones as my SSD wasn't bricked but was updated to the 2nd firmware release but performance went down in every benchmark by 20%.

I was waiting and waiting for a third firmware update to fix this mess but nope, NADA! So I gave up and sold it. What's more embarrassing if you check their firmware update page until this date there is still no firmware update for the 850 PRO so all those people who did upgrade basically got burned.

Thus, my money will never go to this company who doesn't value its customers.
 
Grooveriding

Grooveriding

Diamond Member
Dec 25, 2008
9,147
1,330
126
This was known and mentioned in many reviews about the slower boot times with an NVMe SSD as your boot drive. It's related to the BIOS having to load the NVMe driver. I noticed the difference, but it's literally maybe 3-5 seconds more.


Did you read reviews thoroughly before buying ? ():)
 
Berryracer

Berryracer

Platinum Member
Oct 4, 2006
2,779
1
81
Grooveriding said:
This was known and mentioned in many reviews about the slower boot times with an NVMe SSD as your boot drive. It's related to the BIOS having to load the NVMe driver. I noticed the difference, but it's literally maybe 3-5 seconds more.


Did you read reviews thoroughly before buying ? ():)
Click to expand...
Yes true I do realize that the NVMe Driver takes about 5 seconds more to load during the BIOS or computer startup, but my problem is, after it has initialized, you know the Windows Loading Splash Screen, both on Windows 7 or Windows 10, it just seems to be loading/rotating forever man! as if you were loading Windows from a DVD or Floppy Disk! Doesn't make any sense.
 
MongGrel

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
38,466
3,067
121
If the thing moves large files super fast like it's supposed to, I find it hard to believe a few seconds on boot time would be a game killer.

My main is usually on 24/7 anyways I guess.
 
Berryracer

Berryracer

Platinum Member
Oct 4, 2006
2,779
1
81
MongGrel said:
If the thing moves large files super fast like it's supposed to, I find it hard to believe a few seconds on boot time would be a game killer.

My main is usually on 24/7 anyways I guess.
Click to expand...
What angers is me is the fact that on their forums the Intel rep promised us all a fix since months and till this date, not update has been made to the Intel SSD Toolbox, no firmware update, and no new NVMe Driver since June the 1st. This is what pisses me off.

It killed my enjoyment which I had when I used my first SSD 5 years ago, snappiness and super fast boot time.
 
RampantAndroid

RampantAndroid

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2004
6,591
3
81
If it is otherwise fast, I'm not sure what the problem here is. How often do you boot? Just use the drive...
 
PhIlLy ChEeSe

PhIlLy ChEeSe

Senior member
Apr 1, 2013
962
0
0
WAAAAAH!
I got buyers remorse, I didn't do any research and now I'm mad!! And the lesson is Boyz n girlz? Do your own home work............Visit site's, not just one, look for reviews of the item you want.

This thread should be locked or deleted as he's bad mouthing of of AnAndtech sponsors!
 
Berryracer

Berryracer

Platinum Member
Oct 4, 2006
2,779
1
81
RampantAndroid said:
If it is otherwise fast, I'm not sure what the problem here is. How often do you boot? Just use the drive...
Click to expand...
maybe once a day but the problem is I reinstall the OS a lot especially when there are a lot of driver updates just to maintain a clean system.

Now my practice is to reboot after every driver installation. That means 16 driver installations = 16 reboots x35 seconds each if you count the first startup screen of the UEFI BIOS that's a nightmare waiting for each boot.

Additionally, I cannot accept this in any form when cheap 100 USD SSDs boot up almost instantly and my 1200 USD SSD boots up slower than a traditional HDD.
 
Ketchup

Ketchup

Elite Member
Sep 1, 2002
14,559
248
106
Since they each have differing strengths (SSDs), why don't you put the OS on the Sandisks and use the Intels for other duties.
 
Berryracer

Berryracer

Platinum Member
Oct 4, 2006
2,779
1
81
ketchup79 said:
Since they each have differing strengths (SSDs), why don't you put the OS on the Sandisks and use the Intels for other duties.
Click to expand...
my workflow involves surfing the net 90% and playing games 5% or watching movies 5% so I wouldn't benefit from it. The 2x SanDisk Extreme PRO 960GBs are being used as my data drives and I have a 240GB SanDisk Extreme PRO as the OS drive.

So why did I buy it then if this is my workflow? I thought that since it had a bit faster 4K speeds it would actually benefit me to boot faster and load programs faster but this wasn't the case.
 
Ketchup

Ketchup

Elite Member
Sep 1, 2002
14,559
248
106
Gotcha. Well, with a modern OS, I hardly ever reboot. And I have a feeling you don't much either. So I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
 
RampantAndroid

RampantAndroid

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2004
6,591
3
81
berryracer said:
maybe once a day but the problem is I reinstall the OS a lot especially when there are a lot of driver updates just to maintain a clean system.

Now my practice is to reboot after every driver installation. That means 16 driver installations = 16 reboots x35 seconds each if you count the first startup screen of the UEFI BIOS that's a nightmare waiting for each boot.

Additionally, I cannot accept this in any form when cheap 100 USD SSDs boot up almost instantly and my 1200 USD SSD boots up slower than a traditional HDD.
Click to expand...

I get wanting to keep things clean, but this is just excessive. You don't game, but yet...want a top performing SSD (which had reviews clearly highlighting this issue) and also seem to find a new to reboot after every driver install?

PEBKAC.
 
redzo

redzo

Senior member
Nov 21, 2007
547
5
81
You're too picky.
It's a beast in pretty much anything except boot times. I guess that boot time is this drive's achille's heal. Why do you insist in booting from the i 750? You can boot the OS from any cheap max 200$ ssd and you won't feel a difference.
Considering the price point of this drive and the brand name, I somehow get your frustration. The other way around, I would kill someone to be able to drop it in my rig. All of my VM's would probably fly out the window when loading from it.
 
RampantAndroid

RampantAndroid

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2004
6,591
3
81
redzo said:
You're too picky.
It's a beast in pretty much anything except boot times. I guess that boot time is this drive's achille's heal. Why do you insist in booting from the i 750? You can boot the OS from any cheap max 200$ ssd and you won't feel a difference.
Considering the price point of this drive and the brand name, I somehow get your frustration. The other way around, I would kill someone to be able to drop it in my rig. All of my VM's would probably fly out the window when loading from it.
Click to expand...

Running a VM off that thing WOULD be awesome...since all of my VMs I use for work are IO bound.

it makes you think it's like a RAM Cache because of how fast it is, but that's it!!
Click to expand...

I read this and my response is "that's...'it'? That's *NO* small feat."
 
mikeymikec

mikeymikec

Lifer
May 19, 2011
21,011
16,264
136
berryracer said:
maybe once a day but the problem is I reinstall the OS a lot especially when there are a lot of driver updates just to maintain a clean system.
Click to expand...

You reinstall the OS because you did a driver update? Unless you have absolutely the worst luck by a country mile with drivers, I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain, apart from possibly this feeling:

https://youtu.be/pmEwZ2JJOUk?t=109
 
Last edited:
Puffnstuff

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
16,204
4,885
136
The OP can relieve himself of his anguish by just shipping me that drive for free and I will keep it hidden from his sight forever. :D
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom