Intel 10nm delayed by 9 months? (Semiengineering)

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mikk

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And these will have some sort of BGA style package - so no more sockets, IIRC. This is going to get strange.


Who told Icelake/Kabylake for desktop will be BGA only and won't come for a socket? We had the same nonsense for Skylake, look how it turned out.
 

Fjodor2001

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Who told Icelake/Kabylake for desktop will be BGA only and won't come for a socket? We had the same nonsense for Skylake, look how it turned out.

It's not unlikely that Intel considered making Broadwell BGA only for desktop, but changed its mind. Especially since the only SKUs we've seen announced seem suitable for relatively low power small form factor pre-built systems (AIO).
 

mikk

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It's not unlikely that Intel considered making Broadwell BGA only for desktop, but changed its mind. Especially since the only SKUs we've seen announced seem suitable for relatively low power small form factor pre-built systems (AIO).


Broadwell is not Skylake nor Icelake/Kabylake. Compare it with Cannonlake.
 

Ajay

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Who told Icelake/Kabylake for desktop will be BGA only and won't come for a socket? We had the same nonsense for Skylake, look how it turned out.

Never heard anything about SKL. BDW was supposed to be BGA only, then LGA CPUs were added. At the time I was reading that, SKL was supposed to be the last LGA CPU. Hopefully, all this BGA only stuff is just FUD, but wiring an ever shrinking die to a package with ~1150 pads might be getting difficult.
 

mikk

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They were rumours saying that Haswell will be the last LGA socket CPU generation from Intel.
 

ehume

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Topical necro, how quaint.
But when you think about it, how else to provide feedback on a long-term prediction? As witeken pointed out, jpiniero was correct in his prediction. I for one am glad to have the feedback, the prohibition against necro being consigned to the nether regions.
 

LTC8K6

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14nm++ is claimed to offer 25% greater performance at a given power level than the unoptimized 14nm process first used to produce Broadwell and Skylake chips, or as much as 52% less power consumption for the same level of performance. In fact, Intel's projections show that the transistor performance of 14nm++ will actually exceed that of its first generation of 10-nm products.

http://techreport.com/review/31660/intel-defends-its-process-technology-leadership-at-14nm-and-10nm