Discussion Intel’s Unified Core

[poke01]

Olrak is so bad even with these kind of posts he may wrong.

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[Geddagod]

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How can we be sure olrak did not hack Intel's website and insert that fake job listing himself?

 

[RTX]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025612099054145774

Are they just moving people around from within the company? @Geddagod

 

[dttprofessor]

Unified Core = Bigger E
LPE will not disappear

 

[Tachyonism]

Unified Core = Bigger E
LPE will not disappear

So LPE will still use different uArch?

Then what's the point of "unified" lol.

 

[Momoka_]

So LPE will still use different uArch?

Then what's the point of "unified" lol.

LPE and E obviously share the same uArch, just like Zen Classic and Zen Dense.

 

[DZero]

So, Intel Unified core is to make everything on the same uArch, but with different approach like Zen and Zen c?

 

[511]

So, Intel Unified core is to make everything on the same uArch, but with different approach like Zen and Zen c?

Yes

 

[adroc_thurston]

So, Intel Unified core is to make everything on the same uArch, but with different approach like Zen and Zen c?

Yes.

 

[jdubs03]

So, Intel Unified core is to make everything on the same uArch, but with different approach like Zen and Zen c?

Yes, optimized to different frequency and power curves. From what I gather.

 

[regen1]

So launch/availability-schedule (tentatively) seems
>> NVL : Q4 2026/Q1 2027
>> RZL-S in Q4 2027 or Q1 2028 if delayed/ Titan Lake in (CES/Q1) 2028

UNIFIED core in Hammer Lake launch at worst in 2029, tentatively.

 

[gdansk]

I'm very optimistic on the Unified Core. There should be some good bits from both lineages. Hopefully it'll have a hybrid vigor.
And having one core adapted for multiple roles should simplify validation of design. Plus the Austin team has had more impressive work lately so I'm biased toward believing they can bring Intel back.

 

[adroc_thurston]

And having one core adapted for multiple roles should simplify validation of design. Plus the Austin team has had more impressive work lately so I'm biased toward believing they can bring Intel back.

Kind of the opposite.
Atom guys suck at power and UC has to target a veeeeery wide variety of power ranges.
Too bad!

 

[DZero]

I'm very optimistic on the Unified Core. There should be some good bits from both lineages. Hopefully it'll have a hybrid vigor.
And having one core adapted for multiple roles should simplify validation of design. Plus the Austin team has had more impressive work lately so I'm biased toward believing they can bring Intel back.

Not expecting a Conroe, but enough to be a Sandy Bridge to be decent.

 

[jdubs03]

Kind of the opposite.
Atom guys suck at power and UC has to target a veeeeery wide variety of power ranges.
Too bad!

Now you’re just hating. We’re almost 4 years away. Hold your fire until more info is available. Sheesh.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Now you’re just hating. We’re almost 4 years away. Hold your fire until more info is available. Sheesh.

I know UC perf/power targets and while the perf is there, power uhhhhh.
Basically the implications for scale-out server are (for now) Not Good.

 

[Khato]

I find it somewhat surprising that the actual core code name for the first unified core design hasn't made its way out yet. Please feel free to validate claims of inside information by decoding CSK.

 

[poke01]

I know UC perf/power targets and while the perf is there, power uhhhhh.
Basically the implications for scale-out server are (for now) Not Good.

Power as in it’s not as as efficient when scaled out or it doesn’t scale higher with more power

 

[adroc_thurston]

Power as in it’s not as as efficient when scaled out or it doesn’t scale higher with more power

Not efficient enough below a certain power envelope.

 

[itsmydamnation]

UNIFIED core in Hammer Lake launch at worst in 2029, tentatively.

This made me ROFL , the tentative worst case ..... meaning it can get worse..... 😛

 

[gdansk]

This made me ROFL , the tentative worst case ..... meaning it can get worse..... 😛

It's true, sadly.
Things can always get worse.

 

[Khato]

Not efficient enough below a certain power envelope.

Curious claim to make given that targets put it comfortably ahead of projected comp efficiency at lower power in particular.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Curious claim to make given that targets put it comfortably ahead of projected comp efficiency at lower power in particular.

5W isn't viable for scale-out server at all and you know it.

 

[Khato]

5W isn't viable for scale-out server at all and you know it.

Agreed. No idea why you're bringing up 5W though as lower power, including what I was referencing, is less than 2W per core.

 

[msj10]

I find it somewhat surprising that the actual core code name for the first unified core design hasn't made its way out yet. Please feel free to validate claims of inside information by decoding CSK.

Copper Shark. I guess I am an insider now wohoo.