installing ak v8.0 science app on boinc ver 6.2.18 and vista 32

[bryanW1995]

anybody else have this problem? I'm using vista business. I can't even find the word "seti" using my vista search function. The boinc folder is right where it's supposed to be, but there simply is no \projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder.



















I believe this good thread has been pinned long enough for most of our TeAm Mates to see so I'm going to remove the glue. You might want to save a shortcut to this thread for future reference.

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[Rattledagger]

In v6, BOINC to be compatible with vista is split into two different directories, the BOINC-client-directory, default "c:\program files\BOINC\", and the BOINC Data-directory. The location of the Data-directory depends on windows-version, there the default is:
"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\" for win2k/XP/2003
"C:\ProgramData\BOINC\" for Vista/2008
"C::\Windows\All Users\BOINC\ or C:\Windows\Profiles\All Users\BOINC\" for win98/ME.

Please note, Vista hides c:\ProgramData, so it can be difficult to find it. Still, it will be there.

So, for Vista, the SETI@home-directory would default be c:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

You can specify the locations of both the BOINC-client directory and BOINC data-directory during installation, but they must be two seperate directories...

 

[bryanW1995]

thanks RD!

oops, my thanks might have been premature. I found the directory and installed the "files to install" just like I have previously, but in task manager it still just shows the setiathome 6.03 instead of the akv8.0 that all of my other computers (including my vista laptop) show with the v8.0 science app. I'll try a reboot and report back with results.

 

[bryanW1995]

ok, it works now! thanks for the help again!

 

[bryanW1995]

this is for you greg. I don't know about the xp 32 but RD's instruction for vista were perfect!

edit: I haven't had a recent xp install, but according to rd's instructions I believe that it is the same for both of them. I think that we should sticky this for a few weeks because if you and I have had this same problem then many others might just get frustrated, give up, and just run the normal (slower) client.

 

[Smoke]

Thank you. I bet there are a few more that will be glad to see this bumped.

 

[Wiz]

Just sent this in a PM...

In Vista I had to take ownership of the C drive and all subfolders so I could access the ability to show hidden and system files & folders. Then I could find the data folders where BOINC was keeping the Projects folder and then I could paste the files there. Now it's all working correctly. Vista is a PITA for sure.

 

[Smoke]

I still can't locate the projects folder in my Vista 64 bit system. Help!

edit: no sooner than I post this and I found it!

 

[bryanW1995]

I didn't know how to take ownership of drives when I installed onto vista, but I found the directory when I manually typed it in per RD's instructions. PITA for sure.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Rattledagger
In v6, BOINC to be compatible with vista is split into two different directories, the BOINC-client-directory, default "c:\program files\BOINC\", and the BOINC Data-directory. The location of the Data-directory depends on windows-version, there the default is:
"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\" for win2k/XP/2003
"C:\ProgramData\BOINC\" for Vista/2008
"C::\Windows\All Users\BOINC\ or C:\Windows\Profiles\All Users\BOINC\" for win98/ME.

Please note, Vista hides c:\ProgramData, so it can be difficult to find it. Still, it will be there.

So, for Vista, the SETI@home-directory would default be c:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

You can specify the locations of both the BOINC-client directory and BOINC data-directory during installation, but they must be two seperate directories...

um, anybody know why the **** we are forced to use two separate directories? I understand that it is vista related, but, um, WHY did they do this? also, why is the program data directory hidden by default?

 

[Smoke]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
this is for you greg. I don't know about the xp 32 but RD's instruction for vista were perfect!

edit: I haven't had a recent xp install, but according to rd's instructions I believe that it is the same for both of them. I think that we should sticky this for a few weeks because if you and I have had this same problem then many others might just get frustrated, give up, and just run the normal (slower) client.

We need to keep the stuck threads to a minimum. I'll unstick the "Getting our TeAm back together" thread and stick this one in its place.

 

[Wiz]

On mine (oh boy - I'm doing this from memory since I don't have it here with me) it made a folder called C:\programdata (I think).

Anyway if you have ownership it doesn't mean you can see everything yet.
There was a place I found where I could change the folder view. I think I right clicked the C: root folder and went to properties, then found where I could unhide all hidden & system files.

If you are the Administrator...
Oh yeah - go to Control Panel, User Accounts, Turn User Account Control OFF.
Ignore warnings.
Then it stops being so very annoying whenever you want to make any changes at all...

My Notebook ran through over 20 WU's while I slept. Of course this morning the message was:
"Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down."

 

[Smoke]

I have a ton of completed WUs with the same message as Wiz. Hope the servers are actually down and this is not due to the Opt Client install.


edit: I just checked the Seti Forums and it appears many people are reporting server contact problems. In other words ... everything is running normally. SNAFU :laugh:

 

[Wiz]

I had a new problem with Vista this morning.
It shut off the wireless last night and jettisoned all settings for the wireless connection.
Now I have to dig up that key again because it decided to forget it.
What do I do in order to keep this thing working all the time?

 

[Rattledagger]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
um, anybody know why the **** we are forced to use two separate directories? I understand that it is vista related, but, um, WHY did they do this? also, why is the program data directory hidden by default?

With the v6-clients, the access-rights got screwed-up if data-directory was installed under program-directory, this could lead to instances there BOINC-client didn't work correctly. It's also possible got some problems with migrating to/from v5-clients.

To not run into these problems, the BOINC-installer was changed to deny data-directory residing under the program-directory. There's also a couple other places it's not allowed to install BOINC, it's not allowed to use the root-directory as either data or program-folder, you'll need to use a sub-directory like c:\boinc or something. Also, AFAIK it's not allowed to install to your windows-directory.

Splitting data-directory and program-directory has it's advantages, for one thing it's easier to backup, since don't need to backup the unchanging program-directories, but only the data-directories. Also, it's been the recommended windows-usage for many years, to not use the program-directory for settings and so on.


As for why Vista hides c:\ProgramData, ask Microsoft... For anyone looking for the BOINC-data-directory, would guess typing-in c:\ProgramData\BOINC\ and hitting enter in the file-manager or "my computer" or whatever the Vista calls it, and you should likely land correctly, even programdata is hidden...

Hmm, but maybe you'll get into problems with the sandbox-feature of BOINC-v6, if you've installed as "protected mode"...

 

[bryanW1995]

I actually still haven't "taken control" of my C drive on any of my vista rigs, I just manually typed in the directory exactly as you posted above and found it.