Installed my X1900 XTX today!

[BroadbandGamer]

I don't have a problem with the hardware. Well, except for the white cooler. This should have been black or silver. White just doesn't do it for me. I wouldn't care if my case didn't have a window. Anyway, It's the damn software that's kind of pissing me off. NVIDIA has ATI by the balls when it comes to software IMO.

First off, CCC uses way too much memory and take way too long to start. I swear I'm using almost 100MB's more RAM then I was with my 7800 GTX.

There is no option for custom resolutions. For example, I play WoW at 1600x900. That res is no longer an option in the game and I have no way of adding it. Good thing WoW runs great at 1680x1050.

And my final problem with ATI's software. Turning off the auto scaling doesn't work with all resolutions! This one probably ticks me off more then anything else. I can't stand scaling a lower res to fit my screen. For some reason ATI can't figure this one out. For example, 1280x720 works great. I've got the black bars on the top, bottom, and sides and I'm looking at a true 1280x720 image. Now if I switch it to 800x600, 1024x768, or 1152x768 it scales the damn image. I never had this problem with NVIDIA. When Centered Output mode was selected that's what I got with all resolutions.

 

[tuteja1986]

arr ... arrr .. arr .. arr ! why even a card when you don't have a high res monitor :? your 7800GTX would be very sufficent:! anyways i got my x1900xt and it works awesome at 1600x1200 + 1920 x 1080

I swear you just had 7800GTX in your sig

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer

First off, CCC uses way too much memory and take way too long to start. I swear I'm using almost 100MB's more RAM then I was with my 7800 GTX.

Using the system skin helps and no, it doesn't use 100's of MB's of RAM. If CCC really bothers you then just install the drivers without it, then install ATI Tray Tools. You won't be losing any functionality.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986
arr ... arrr .. arr .. arr ! why even a card when you don't have a high res monitor :? your 7800GTX would be very sufficent:! anyways i got my x1900xt and it works awesome at 1600x1200 + 1920 x 1080

I swear you just had 7800GTX in your sig

1680x1050 isn't high rez? I know I can bring my X1800XT to it's knees with this monitor, I could do the same to SLI'ed GTX's...

Edit: to the OP: that "OMG this software sucks ass" feeling goes away after a while. I just know that my PC isn't really ready to use until I get that single screen flicker which occurs when the CCC loads. The CCC, aside from it's .net requirement, is actually a pretty decent interface for the card provided you aren't going to to take it to extremes. Overall, I like NV's better, but I've also been using it a lot longer.

 

[ayabe]

I can't get tray tools to work, even the newest beta 12.

I'm happy so far, the noise isn't nearly as bad as I had anticipated and I've gotten serious gains across board moving from my 800XL.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: ayabe
I can't get tray tools to work, even the newest beta 12.

I'm happy so far, the noise isn't nearly as bad as I had anticipated and I've gotten serious gains across board moving from my 800XL.

Yeah, the card performs like a champ and the noise level seems about the same as my 7800 GTX.

 

[Yreka]

Tray tools are not supported yet. It is a bit confusing because they just released a new rev fairly recently, but nope still no 1900 support

I am with you so far on the CCC Brodband. Im hangin in there though, card is really nice

Have any of you guys had the fan get up to full speed yet ? Mine rarely spins up very much at all.

 

[akugami]

Biggest question I have to OP and it's card neutral. Why in the heck are you running WOW at 1600x900 when your 2005FPW monitor is native at 1680x1050????? I agree with the rest of the complaints, the only option is to use ATI Tray Tools when it gets support for the X1900.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: akugami
Biggest question I have to OP and it's card neutral. Why in the heck are you running WOW at 1600x900 when your 2005FPW monitor is native at 1680x1050?????

I was kinda wondering about that too. He's complaining that he can't get some odd resolution that doesn't even match his monitor? I don't get it.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: Yreka
Tray tools are not supported yet. It is a bit confusing because they just released a new rev fairly recently, but nope still no 1900 support

I am with you so far on the CCC Brodband. Im hangin in there though, card is really nice

Have any of you guys had the fan get up to full speed yet ? Mine rarely spins up very much at all.

I guess i haven't really stressed it yet because I haven't heard the fan spin up at all.

Originally posted by: akugami
Biggest question I have to OP and it's card neutral. Why in the heck are you running WOW at 1600x900 when your 2005FPW monitor is native at 1680x1050????? I agree with the rest of the complaints, the only option is to use ATI Tray Tools when it gets support for the X1900.

I don't know, I guess I just prefer a 16:9 aspect over 16:10.

I'm running WoW at 1680x1050 and it looks and runs great. I'm not going to be able to run all my games at my native res. For example F.E.A.R. I don't think I'll be able to run this maxed out with AA/AF at 1680x1050. Having the option to drop the resolution without scaling is nice. besides my native res, my only other widescreen option is 1280x720. I liked having 1600x900 as another option. 1280x720 is just a little too low.

 

[akugami]

Ok, if you said FEAR, that would be one thing. I haven't played FEAR so I'm unfamiliar with it's resolutions and idiosyncracies but I have played WOW and it looks great at 1680x1050 which is the 2005FPW's native resolution (I have the 2005FPW). Why would you play it at 1600x900, which I assume will letterbox it, when it looks and plays great at 1680x1050? You made no mention of FEAR in your original post only WOW, so myself and others are wondering why you prefer letterboxing a game that plays perfectly well in widescreen. I don't know if FEAR will play at 1680x1050 resolutions natively but if it does, why would you want to letterbox it.

If anything, you used the confused/rolling eyes smiley...and truthfully, I'm still confused why you would want to run a game that runs natively at 16:10 fullscreen at 16:9 which I assume will letterbox it.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: akugami
Biggest question I have to OP and it's card neutral. Why in the heck are you running WOW at 1600x900 when your 2005FPW monitor is native at 1680x1050????? I agree with the rest of the complaints, the only option is to use ATI Tray Tools when it gets support for the X1900.

1600x900 = 16:9 standard WS (used in WS movies and such)

1650x1080 = 16:10

My guess is he uses it for video a lot so that's his default res.

 

[Snooper]

Scaling is the one reason I still don't have a LCD. As video cards get more powerful and more games support widescreen, it is less and less of an issue. But until then, I am going to be very happy with my 24" widescreen CRT. I can adjust it to fit any resolution I want and they all look great!

 

[Elfear]

I'll bet FEAR will run just fine for you at your native res if you drop the AA down to 2x. I can barely tell a difference between 2x and 4x in that game but the performance hit is huge. With my GTs I could run 1920x1200 2AA/8AF with everything maxed with an average of 65fps. At 1600x1200 4AA/8AF with everything maxed, I dropped down to 49fps avg.

 

[dalearyous]

hey if you don't like ati's software i'd recommend going with omegadrivers.net
im a huge fan of omega drivers. i jumped 30fps in call of duty 1 when i switched.

btw, im impressed that so many people here have opterons. im reconsidering my x2 4400 purchase

 

[5150Joker]

What's better about an opteron vs X2 4400+? Doesnt the X2 4400+ have more cache?

 

[akugami]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: akugami
Biggest question I have to OP and it's card neutral. Why in the heck are you running WOW at 1600x900 when your 2005FPW monitor is native at 1680x1050????? I agree with the rest of the complaints, the only option is to use ATI Tray Tools when it gets support for the X1900.

1600x900 = 16:9 standard WS (used in WS movies and such)

1650x1080 = 16:10

My guess is he uses it for video a lot so that's his default res.

Yep, but we're talking games...and when I watch a WS movie it gets auto letterboxed cause I'm running the desktop in 1680x1050 natively. It would make no sense to run the desktop in a non native resolution and all software is smart enough to letterbox widescreen content or sidebar 4:3 content on a WS monitor. So...color me confused.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: akugami

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: akugami
Biggest question I have to OP and it's card neutral. Why in the heck are you running WOW at 1600x900 when your 2005FPW monitor is native at 1680x1050????? I agree with the rest of the complaints, the only option is to use ATI Tray Tools when it gets support for the X1900.

1600x900 = 16:9 standard WS (used in WS movies and such)

1650x1080 = 16:10

My guess is he uses it for video a lot so that's his default res.

Yep, but we're talking games...and when I watch a WS movie it gets auto letterboxed cause I'm running the desktop in 1680x1050 natively. It would make no sense to run the desktop in a non native resolution and all software is smart enough to letterbox widescreen content or sidebar 4:3 content on a WS monitor. So...color me confused.

If you run your monitor at 1600x900 it gets rid of the letterboxing.

 

[Ackmed]

Widescreen gaming forums is your friend; http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/fo...viewtopic.php?t=452&highlight=warcraft Its not hard to get WS to run in almost any game.

CCC doesnt use 100megs of ram. If its loading slow for you, try 2.0, its much faster. Also, you can right click the icon, and not even have to load it up to change settings. Or, as suggested, dont even use it, just use the drivers and ATi tools.

I dont know why your auto scaling isnt working. It worked with my X850XT/PE and my 2405FPW. The card just wasnt strong enough for most games, so I had to lower the res in a lot of new games... which is why I bought a GTX. Scaling worked fine for me then.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Widescreen gaming forums is your friend; http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/fo...viewtopic.php?t=452&highlight=warcraft Its not hard to get WS to run in almost any game.

CCC doesnt use 100megs of ram. If its loading slow for you, try 2.0, its much faster. Also, you can right click the icon, and not even have to load it up to change settings. Or, as suggested, dont even use it, just use the drivers and ATi tools.

I dont know why your auto scaling isnt working. It worked with my X850XT/PE and my 2405FPW. The card just wasnt strong enough for most games, so I had to lower the res in a lot of new games... which is why I bought a GTX. Scaling worked fine for me then.

ARe you talking about .NET 2.0? I've got both .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 installed. Do I need both installed? How do I select one over the other?

I have "use centered timings" selected. It works for a couple lower resolutions but not for all. I had this same problem back when I had a X800 XTPE.

 

[Ackmed]

I didnt install 1.1, just 2.0. I am not sure if it can be just upgraded to 2.0 from 1.1, although I wouldnt see why.

I didnt try a lot of different res', and my memory is a little foggy since its been about 6 months, or more since I had my X850 on this 2405.

 

[xtknight]

.NET 2.0 is a different language than .NET 1.1, so some programs cannot just be changed. However it appears ATI CCC is fine with .NET 2.0.

To speed up ATI CCC: First get .NET 2.0. Then start 'services.msc', and make sure "Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN" (description) is in your NT services list. This is just the native image generator from .NET 1.1, but .NET 2.0 automatically invokes it. Verify the service is set to automatic, and then start it. That should help ATI CCC.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: dalearyous
hey if you don't like ati's software i'd recommend going with omegadrivers.net
im a huge fan of omega drivers. i jumped 30fps in call of duty 1 when i switched.

btw, im impressed that so many people here have opterons. im reconsidering my x2 4400 purchase

QFT!!!

 

[flexy]

you're probably new to ATI.

First...you dont NEED the STINKING CCC. Just use/dl the drivers alone and use "ati tray tools"...i think it even supports custom resolutions. Amongst a ***load of other things.

There are other ways for custom resos, powerstrip, omega-drivers etc. I am running a 1360/1024 desktop right now and thats also the reso i am using when playing games.

Dont give up and complain JUST because you dont know about the tools we have.

I agree however that CCC is BS and i refuse to EVER install it..i dont need it and even with a pretty ok system. I hate bloat. GEt ati tray tools for all tweaks and/or the old normal CP.

Otherwise i think the ATI drivers are good. ANd stop thinking negative about your X1900...i would be happy if i had one right now - AND the monitor which would support some bada$$ resolutions. My 19" does 1600 only at 70hz which i refuse...so the max reso at 80hz+ is 1360...and it would PROBABLY overkill to get a X1900XT if i dont have the ubermonitor for those resolutions.

My x850XT still serves me well