Insert 9800pro, system won't post...

Napalm

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Hi I picked up a 9800pro and hooked it up last night. The system will not post. I tried reseating, I tried all of the powersupply connectors, I set the AGP to 4X, I tried unconnecting zip, dvd, cdrw, and all of my usb devices and it still wouldn't post. Not sure what to try next...

I have a an XP 1800+ on a KR7A-133, with 768Mb DDR RAM, and a 300 watt Enermax powersupply...

Any ideas??

Cheers,
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EvilComputer92

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Hmmm...


Your 300 watt Enermax should be sufficient, check the 12-volt lines on your power supply. Or you might just have a defective power supply. The worst it could be is that you got a defective 9800 pro. I once got a brand new seagate barracude 120 gb hard drive, and found it was dead right out of the box!
 

Napalm

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I doubt its the powersupply - it should have enough juice to run some RAM, a hard drive, NIC, sound card and a 9800pro.

I'd welcome a dead video card - I can simply return it and get a new one. If instead it works fine in another machine, then I am really stuck here...

Any other bright ideas?
 

Napalm

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Well - video card is OK. Installed it in another system and it ran fine...
 

Napalm

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Thanks Viper,

I'm pretty sure this is a MB issue as well - I'll try upating the bios and report back. Mind you, I have always hated this MB (sometimes will not detect drives on boot-up, often hangs in bios...) and replacing it would force me to upgrade my CPU... ;)

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Napalm

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So now I am stumped. I updated to the latest bios and tried again. Same problem as before....

One new piece of info is that when it starts I get one long beep followed by two short beeps. Apparently "this indicates that a video error has occurred and the BIOS cannot initialize the video screen to display any additional information." Yeah - no kidding.

So c'mon - someone out there has to have a clue how to proceed... Basically, I have a functional Mb, a functional video card, a decent powersupply, and a system that won't start unless I use my old video card...

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kylebisme

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just leave the computer running and hit reset again and again and eventually one might get you to boot. i had the same problem with that mb and my 9700pro.
 

Creig

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A few things to try:

Disable Fast-writes

Try increasing the AGP voltage 0.1 or 0.2 if your BIOS allows

Measure the line voltages using a good DMM. It could be that your voltages might be low, even with an Enermax.
 

Creig

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Also try running the Radeon on its own line from the power supply (i.e. no other devices on the line from the card to the PSU).
 

Napalm

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It appears that some of these 9800pro may not be conforming to AGP standards and are tripping safety circuits on decent power supplies.

I have a 350 watt enermax powersupply that will absolutely not allow this card to post - even when I have reduced power requirements to the bare minimum - MB, hard drive, RAM, 9800pro - unless I do the following: start machine as per normal, wait 1 second and then plug in power connector to the 9800pro. Lots of others are having the same issue and it is only fixed with this mickey-mouse solution - NOT by moving to quality 400-500watt power supplies.

ATI should fix this...

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jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: Napalm
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It appears that some of these 9800pro may not be conforming to AGP standards and are tripping safety circuits on decent power supplies.

I have a 350 watt enermax powersupply that will absolutely not allow this card to post - even when I have reduced power requirements to the bare minimum - MB, hard drive, RAM, 9800pro - unless I do the following: start machine as per normal, wait 1 second and then plug in power connector to the 9800pro. Lots of others are having the same issue and it is only fixed with this mickey-mouse solution - NOT by moving to quality 400-500watt power supplies.

ATI should fix this...

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I have never heard of this issue and have run 9800Pro/9700Pro cards on 300, 350 and 430W Enermax PSU's.

I still think this sounds more like a motherboard issue - newer motherboards don't act like this.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: GamerAT240
You should see my thread here

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=1383106&enterthread=y

I had a Rad9700Pro that I often had to hit reset a few times. Like if the system was 'cold' it would need reset, but if it did a triple beep, just wait 10-30seconds and hit reset. It's 'warmed' by then and boots ok.

You never did mention what MB you have and you did conlude yourself that your 9700p was defective.

In the OP's situation, i'd ALSO say his MB is the (likely) problem NOT the Radeon (which works fine in another system). ;)

:roll:

try UPgrading.

:D
 

GamerAT240

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Sorry, don't mean to take over the thread so I'll keep it short.

I didn't have another system to try it on unfortunately, it was definately defective in the end because the display corrupted in my 3 OSs and DOS.

My Mobo is ASUSTek - A7A266E, just got it via SiSoftware Sandra, nice program.