Infowars Interviews a Socialist - "You people have worms in your brains."

[Blackjack200]

Perfect way to handle insane reporter, and talk about policies that would be pretty difficult to criticize.

https://twitter.com/nobody_stop_me/status/991741815765241857

"In the video, Dasha said of Sanders, "I think he has a lot of integrity. I like his value system. I like what he stands for." Asked which of Sanders's values she likes, Dasha replied, "Eating the rich."

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/sailor-socialism-dasha-nekrasova-viral-infowars-interview

 

[tygeezy]

Perfect way to handle insane reporter, and talk about policies that would be pretty difficult to criticize.

https://twitter.com/nobody_stop_me/status/991741815765241857

"In the video, Dasha said of Sanders, "I think he has a lot of integrity. I like his value system. I like what he stands for." Asked which of Sanders's values she likes, Dasha replied, "Eating the rich."

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/sailor-socialism-dasha-nekrasova-viral-infowars-interview

It is not difficult at all to criticize wealth redistribution and socialized healthcare. These aren't ironclad ideals that have no counter point.

 

[Blackjack200]

It is not difficult at all to criticize wealth redistribution and socialized healthcare. These aren't ironclad ideals that have no counter point.

Go for it.

 

[senseamp]

She handled that Republican trash well.

 

[tygeezy]

Go for it.

If you redistribute wealth you disincentivize hard work and innovation. Why would you want to work so hard if you aren't going to be compensated? This hurts consumers because we benefit from new technology and products. You also eventually run out of everybody else's money after the short term boom. See Venezuela.

Socializing health care will increase wait times which reduced the qualify of your care because early intervention is key for al ot of ailments. I can get a same day appointment with kaiser. With the NHS you're waiting two weeks to see your Gp:

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/your-pr...eeks-despite-rescue-measures/20034534.article

 

[senseamp]

The problem with conservatism is eventually it runs out of blue state money.

 

[tygeezy]

She handled that Republican trash well.

What was handled? Was I given two minutes to come up with a response? Let me ask what you add to these conversations? Because all I see from you are pot shots and insults for the crime of disagreement. I don't believe that people I disagree with our trash. I hope you don't treat people in real life the way you treat people here that don't subscribe to your ideology.

 

[tygeezy]

The problem with conservatism is eventually it runs out of blue state money.

This is my dog, isn't he cute? I made a special gif of him for puzzling posts like this.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Socializing health care will increase wait times which reduced the qualify of your care because early intervention is key for al ot of ailments. I can get a same day appointment with kaiser. With the NHS you're waiting two weeks to see your Gp

Yeah but see here's the problem, other people here can't see the doctor at all. I'm lucky and still able to use my parent's insurance, but a friend of mine can't because of personal reasons, and she's avoided going to the doctor because she's already working basically full time and taking loans to go to school. If I was unlucky enough to get badly hurt it would put massive financial strain on my family, and if my friend got badly hurt she would probably have to drop out of college and still take on massive amounts of medical debt, and then pay that off without an education since she wouldn't be able to get school loans with that debt on her record.

Also, from your own link;

We made sure we always triaged all calls so that all people who needed to be seen WERE seen when they needed to be seen however urgently that was.

So if that's accurate reporting only general checkups are being made in advance, and treatment that is time-sensitive is scheduled sooner. Obviously has its downsides but it seems a lot better than what we have now.

 

[sdifox]

If you redistribute wealth you disincentivize hard work and innovation. Why would you want to work so hard if you aren't going to be compensated? This hurts consumers because we benefit from new technology and products. You also eventually run out of everybody else's money after the short term boom. See Venezuela.

Socializing health care will increase wait times which reduced the qualify of your care because early intervention is key for al ot of ailments. I can get a same day appointment with kaiser. With the NHS you're waiting two weeks to see your Gp:

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/your-pr...eeks-despite-rescue-measures/20034534.article

lol, how much innovation is the top 1% contributing exactly?

 

[Blackjack200]

If you redistribute wealth you disincentivize hard work and innovation. Why would you want to work so hard if you aren't going to be compensated? This hurts consumers because we benefit from new technology and products. You also eventually run out of everybody else's money after the short term boom. See Venezuela.

Socializing health care will increase wait times which reduced the qualify of your care because early intervention is key for al ot of ailments. I can get a same day appointment with kaiser. With the NHS you're waiting two weeks to see your Gp:

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/your-pr...eeks-despite-rescue-measures/20034534.article

Swing and a miss.

 

[ivwshane]

If you redistribute wealth you disincentivize hard work and innovation. Why would you want to work so hard if you aren't going to be compensated? This hurts consumers because we benefit from new technology and products. You also eventually run out of everybody else's money after the short term boom. See Venezuela.

Socializing health care will increase wait times which reduced the qualify of your care because early intervention is key for al ot of ailments. I can get a same day appointment with kaiser. With the NHS you're waiting two weeks to see your Gp:

http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/your-pr...eeks-despite-rescue-measures/20034534.article

You don't appear to understand what socialism is. Why would wealth be redistributed to a point where peoples incentive to work is removed? Do you think innovation only happens because of the desire to make money?

 

[tygeezy]

Yeah but see here's the problem, other people here can't see the doctor at all. I'm lucky and still able to use my parent's insurance, but a friend of mine can't because of personal reasons, and she's avoided going to the doctor because she's already working basically full time and taking loans to go to school. If I was unlucky enough to get badly hurt it would put massive financial strain on my family, and if my friend got badly hurt she would probably have to drop out of college and still take on massive amounts of medical debt, and then pay that off without an education since she wouldn't be able to get school loans with that debt on her record.

Also, from your own link;

So if that's accurate reporting only general checkups are being made in advance, and treatment that is time-sensitive is scheduled sooner. Obviously has its downsides but it seems a lot better than what we have now.

Personal reasons are keeping her from seeing a doctor? She works full time, so she should have access to health care. These same personal reasons wouldn't keep her from seeing a doctor under socialized medicine?

 

[tygeezy]

Swing and a miss.

You mean on your part? Because you have provided zero counter points to my claims.

 

[Blackjack200]

Personal reasons are keeping her from seeing a doctor? She works full time, so she should have access to health care. These same personal reasons wouldn't keep her from seeing a doctor under socialized medicine?

Awesome, tell people that their friends' problems aren't real. That'll win you support.

 

[Blackjack200]

You mean on your part? Because you have provided zero counter points to my claims.

Why would I do that? I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm saying "eat the rich" and "health care for everyone" are ideas that resonate with people that are desperate for change in our late stage capitalist hellscape. You think I care about the reddit frogs? haha.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Personal reasons are keeping her from seeing a doctor? She works full time, so she should have access to health care. These same personal reasons wouldn't keep her from seeing a doctor under socialized medicine?

She can't use her family's insurance (even though she's the right age to) because of family issues, and she works two jobs but both are part time without benefits like insurance. Working those jobs and taking a full course load (to graduate in the time her scholarships require) is basically impossible, I don't know how she does it. Socialized healthcare would allow her to be able to take care of her health without worrying about financial stress she's already under, and I think a true first-world country should be able to take care of that.

 

[fskimospy]

If you redistribute wealth you disincentivize hard work and innovation. Why would you want to work so hard if you aren't going to be compensated? This hurts consumers because we benefit from new technology and products. You also eventually run out of everybody else's money after the short term boom.

By your logic then there should be an inverse relationship between per capita income and the percentage of GDP consumed by government. The opposite is true. How do you explain this?

See Venezuela.

Attempting to compare the US to Venezuela indicates to me you don't have a strong grasp of this issue.

Socializing health care will increase wait times which reduced the qualify of your care because early intervention is key for al ot of ailments. I can get a same day appointment with kaiser. With the NHS you're waiting two weeks to see your Gp:

Yet it is undeniable that every socialized system in a developed country outperforms our system. They overall have similar results for a fraction of the cost.

 

[mect]

By your logic then there should be an inverse relationship between per capita income and the percentage of GDP consumed by government. The opposite is true. How do you explain this?



Attempting to compare the US to Venezuela indicates to me you don't have a strong grasp of this issue.



Yet it is undeniable that every socialized system in a developed country outperforms our system. They overall have similar results for a fraction of the cost.

Conservative counter points seem to only work if you ignore real world data and focus purely on theoretical philosophies.

 

[Paladin3]

She asked someone stupid a stupid question and got a stupid answer. No points awarded.

 

[tygeezy]

By your logic then there should be an inverse relationship between per capita income and the percentage of GDP consumed by government. The opposite is true. How do you explain this?



Attempting to compare the US to Venezuela indicates to me you don't have a strong grasp of this issue.



Yet it is undeniable that every socialized system in a developed country outperforms our system. They overall have similar results for a fraction of the cost.

Your point would be better if you linked to something. Regardless, it doesn't debunk incentives which is the fundamental principle of capitalism and why it works. The united states is the world leader in technological innovation. A lot of this boils down to our free market, and incentives. What happens if you take that away? Do people want to stick around? So what happens after you redistribute that wealth and then people bounce and then you run out of that money?

Venezuela is a great example. They had a temporary boom from the influx of money to lower classes, but eventually they ran out of said money.

Look, I encourage you to just sticking to points instead of bringing attention to so called ignorance. It's just window dressing and doesn't further the discussion when counter points is all you need.

 

[tygeezy]

Conservative counter points seem to only work if you ignore real world data and focus purely on theoretical philosophies.

Yeah man, Capitalism is such a failure.

 

[mect]

Yeah man, Capitalism is such a failure.

Very few claim capitalism is a failure. The claim is that unbridled capitalism and the current models of socialism utilized in America are a detriment to society compared to models being successfully employed in other parts of the world.

 

[ivwshane]

Your point would be better if you linked to something. Regardless, it doesn't debunk incentives which is the fundamental principle of capitalism and why it works. The united states is the world leader in technological innovation. A lot of this boils down to our free market, and incentives. What happens if you take that away? Do people want to stick around? So what happens after you redistribute that wealth and then people bounce and then you run out of that money?

Venezuela is a great example. They had a temporary boom from the influx of money to lower classes, but eventually they ran out of said money.

Look, I encourage you to just sticking to points instead of bringing attention to so called ignorance. It's just window dressing and doesn't further the discussion when counter points is all you need.

Oops...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

Take note of the number of patents per million population.

 

[tygeezy]

Oops...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

Take note of the number of patents per million population.

I guess patents is one way of looking at it. Silicon Valley is the world leader in tech at the moment; which is located in the US.