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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: pontifex
ok, this is a military laptop. why the hell isn't it super secure with tons of encryption and strong passwords?

YEAH! Just like in the movie, right?!

Beep, beep, boop! Whir!

"System is now secure with Top Secret Double Magma Encryption"


"System secure, sir!"


Keep dreamin' 😕

😕
what crawled up your ass and died?
no where in my posts did i say anything like that...


Your post exhibited blinding ignorance. I attempted to point this out, using over-the-top humor, in a manner that you could understand. This did not work.

blinding ignorance? what, because i don't know the inner workings of the federal government and their security policies? i'm guessing a lot of people wouldn't know.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
ok, this is a military laptop. why the hell isn't it super secure with tons of encryption and strong passwords?

There should be. Through my work i have a laptop which is on the military network, and i haven?t seen security like this anywhere else before.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
I just got the letter yesterday. Morons. I imagine this will have no effect on the overwhelming majority of veterans, and given the scope of the problem I imagine if there IS widespread identity theft, Congress will have to act to protect us. We shall see . . .

You'll have to forgive me if I don't share your optimism about the government acting to protect us. The VA says that it "is taking all possible steps to protect and inform all veterans, servicemembers, and reservists potentially affected."

Let's see...
They didn't fire the responsible person and kick his skeevy ass right out of the building, allowing him back only to personally lick all 26.5 million envelopes for the mailing. They are "implementing procedures necessary to dismiss the employee."
They mailed us letters telling us what steps WE should take, putting the burden on us. And, last but not least, they have instructed "all VA employees to complete the cyber security and privacy awareness courses by June 30, 2006."

Somehow I am not feeling overly reassured.




 
Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: DonVito
I just got the letter yesterday. Morons. I imagine this will have no effect on the overwhelming majority of veterans, and given the scope of the problem I imagine if there IS widespread identity theft, Congress will have to act to protect us. We shall see . . .

You'll have to forgive me if I don't share your optimism about the government acting to protect us. The VA says that it "is taking all possible steps to protect and inform all veterans, servicemembers, and reservists potentially affected."

Let's see...
They didn't fire the responsible person and kick his skeevy ass right out of the building, allowing him back only to personally lick all 26.5 million envelopes for the mailing. They are "implementing procedures necessary to dismiss the employee."

Heh - do you have any idea what it takes to fire a civil service employee? I'm sure the union is all over this - he just needs "more training".

They mailed us letters telling us what steps WE should take, putting the burden on us. And, last but not least, they have instructed "all VA employees to complete the cyber security and privacy awareness courses by June 30, 2006."

See - what did I tell you 😛

Somehow I am not feeling overly reassured.

They have a commitee of Top Men looking into it right now. Top Men.
 
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: DonVito
I just got the letter yesterday. Morons. I imagine this will have no effect on the overwhelming majority of veterans, and given the scope of the problem I imagine if there IS widespread identity theft, Congress will have to act to protect us. We shall see . . .

You'll have to forgive me if I don't share your optimism about the government acting to protect us. The VA says that it "is taking all possible steps to protect and inform all veterans, servicemembers, and reservists potentially affected."

Let's see...
They didn't fire the responsible person and kick his skeevy ass right out of the building, allowing him back only to personally lick all 26.5 million envelopes for the mailing. They are "implementing procedures necessary to dismiss the employee."

Heh - do you have any idea what it takes to fire a civil service employee? I'm sure the union is all over this - he just needs "more training".

Yeah, there's the rub. It seems to me firing him is a relatively secondary issue - it's like closing the gate after the herd has already escaped. AFAIK he is not accused of stealing or selling the laptop himself, just failing to protect it.

 
They have a commitee of Top Men looking into it right now. Top Men.
Oh, well. In that case...
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
I just got the letter yesterday. Morons. I imagine this will have no effect on the overwhelming majority of veterans, and given the scope of the problem I imagine if there IS widespread identity theft, Congress will have to act to protect us. We shall see . . .

What could Congress do? My uncle and grandparents are affected by this, and I haven't asked to see if they've gotten letters. None of them have mentioned anything to me. But, I'll remind them about it just in case they hadn't heard.
 
Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: DonVito
I just got the letter yesterday. Morons. I imagine this will have no effect on the overwhelming majority of veterans, and given the scope of the problem I imagine if there IS widespread identity theft, Congress will have to act to protect us. We shall see . . .

You'll have to forgive me if I don't share your optimism about the government acting to protect us. The VA says that it "is taking all possible steps to protect and inform all veterans, servicemembers, and reservists potentially affected."

Let's see...
They didn't fire the responsible person and kick his skeevy ass right out of the building, allowing him back only to personally lick all 26.5 million envelopes for the mailing. They are "implementing procedures necessary to dismiss the employee."

Heh - do you have any idea what it takes to fire a civil service employee? I'm sure the union is all over this - he just needs "more training".

Yeah, there's the rub. It seems to me firing him is a relatively secondary issue - it's like closing the gate after the herd has already escaped. AFAIK he is not accused of stealing or selling the laptop himself, just failing to protect it.

Yea, firing the guy won't solve this problem. At best it would just set an example of what can happen if you don't protect the data you're entrusted with adequately. But, from what I've heard, their policies were not particularly well understood or disseminated. So, training may well be in order.
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: DonVito
I just got the letter yesterday. Morons. I imagine this will have no effect on the overwhelming majority of veterans, and given the scope of the problem I imagine if there IS widespread identity theft, Congress will have to act to protect us. We shall see . . .

What could Congress do? My uncle and grandparents are affected by this, and I haven't asked to see if they've gotten letters. None of them have mentioned anything to me. But, I'll remind them about it just in case they hadn't heard.

Congress could do any number of things. They could, for example, pass legislation providing for the following:

a) Requiring free credit reports for affected vets on a monthly basis until/unless the VA can verify the information was not misused;

b) Provide affected vets with advocates, paid by the VA, to help them dispute entries in their credit reports;

c) Pay for monitoring by the credit agencies to watch for suspected abuse and report it to affected vets;

d) If necessary, underwrite necessary loans to vets who have had their identities stolenl

e) Increase federal prosecutions of and penalties for ID theft.

These are just off the top of my head; no doubt others will have better ideas.
 
from website
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This data loss potentially affects all veterans who have ever filed a claim for VA disability compensation, pension, or education benefits, or who have (or had) a VA insurance policy ? no matter when the claim was filed or when they were discharged. These veterans would be included even if their claim was denied or they are not currently receiving benefits.

VA automated its records systems about 1975 and began regular input of information received from DoD on all separating veterans. When VA automated its records systems, VA also input data from all historical claimant records that had been manually maintained by the agency.

We urge all veterans to be extra vigilant and monitor their financial accounts.

 
That sounds like that anyone who had ANY interaction with the VA at any time in the past 30 years could be affected.:|
 
FYI: As I stated earlier, the published 26.5 million figure does not only include veterans. Approximately 1.1 million active duty enlisted, and an additional 1.1 million National Guard and/or reserve may be impacted as well (for a total of 2.2 million).
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
That sounds like that anyone who had ANY interaction with the VA at any time in the past 30 years could be affected.:|

Yep I just found out my dad got one, and he served from 68 to 71. But he has diabetes, and has had the VA buying his insulin for a few years now, from what I understand. He also works for the VA.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
My g/f used to be in the Navy, and her name was on that computer that was stolen. We're a little nervous, and confused as what to do. I haven't read the letter in detail yet, and appears to just be a warning that her name was on there. Anyone here have any experiance with ID theft, or should we be that worried about it?

I got a letter from the secretary of veterans affairs today regarding the theft.

IMHO it is no biggie.
 
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