Information minister was not joking...

[BarneyFife]

If you re-read the quotes today, they aren't funny anymore and have a lot of merit.

Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."

"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."

"Washington has thrown their soldiers on the fire"
"Their casualties and bodies are many."
"We will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."


All this stuff has come true. After the war was declared over, we have at least 1 person dying every day. If the casualties mount to over 1k by the end of the year, how will the American people feel? There seems to be a growing backlash to this war that is just getting started. People of all parties are realizing that many young people are dying for oil. What a shameful leader.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
If you re-read the quotes today, they aren't funny anymore and have a lot of merit.

Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."

"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."

"Washington has thrown their soldiers on the fire"
"Their casualties and bodies are many."
"We will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."


All this stuff has come true. After the war was declared over, we have at least 1 person dying every day. If the casualties mount to over 1k by the end of the year, how will the American people feel? There seems to be a growing backlash to this war that is just getting started. People of all parties are realizing that many young people are dying for oil. What a shameful leader.

They've pushed us back into the swamp?

More people die in the US to violence than do in Iraq. Maybe we should give up America.

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

 

[Jadow]

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

what I want to know is, how did that punk ass traitor Robert the Bruce get Wallace's precious snot rag?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
If you re-read the quotes today, they aren't funny anymore and have a lot of merit.

Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."

"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."

"Washington has thrown their soldiers on the fire"
"Their casualties and bodies are many."
"We will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."


All this stuff has come true. After the war was declared over, we have at least 1 person dying every day. If the casualties mount to over 1k by the end of the year, how will the American people feel? There seems to be a growing backlash to this war that is just getting started. People of all parties are realizing that many young people are dying for oil. What a shameful leader.

They've pushed us back into the swamp?

More people die in the US to violence than do in Iraq. Maybe we should give up America.

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

Give it up.....reason doesn't work with pathetic liberal moron trolls

 

[LunarRay]

Give it up.....reason doesn't work with pathetic liberal moron trolls

I think now that Butterfield has disclosed the existence of a tape system to the Committee Nixon will have to come clean... hope he don't erase the good parts... Maybe he can get Buchanan to write some good stuff for him... Garment is at the FBI now. Mitchell assures us that he knows nothing and Liddy ain't talking... Kissinger and Haig are at each other again... probably wants his job.. Them dam hippies and their anti war crap... ......... ho hum..

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Give it up.....reason doesn't work with pathetic liberal moron trolls

Reason doesn't work with any pathetic moron trolls. I take it you're not liberal?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
More people die in the US to violence than do in Iraq. Maybe we should give up America.

This is, of course, in no way related to the fact that there about 2,000 times as many Americans here than in Iraq.

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

Here's a news flash for you, HoP. We had peace in Iraq -- past tense. We don't have peace there now. Whether our little adventure brings freedom to the Iraqis remains to be seen.

By the way, this is the same (ir)rationale that put us and kept us in Vietnam.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
If you re-read the quotes today, they aren't funny anymore and have a lot of merit.

Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."

"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."

"Washington has thrown their soldiers on the fire"
"Their casualties and bodies are many."
"We will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."


All this stuff has come true. After the war was declared over, we have at least 1 person dying every day. If the casualties mount to over 1k by the end of the year, how will the American people feel? There seems to be a growing backlash to this war that is just getting started. People of all parties are realizing that many young people are dying for oil. What a shameful leader.

1. The war was never declared over
2. It takes time to secure a country and rebuild it. Did you expect someone to wave a magic wand and suddenly Iraq be a model of civility and democracy?

And stop with the dying for oil BS....everyone with even a few neurons firing knows oil had nothing to do with this war.

 

[mastertech01]

There have been more die from accidents than from combat since the end of the major military push, and even many who died during the major offensive were accidents. If you kept track of all the accidents in the military worldwide you would find there are many deaths each year without combat action.

 

[aluehrs]

I thought I recall bush saying the war was "over" a while ago on an aircraft carrier in San Diego...?

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: mastertech01
There have been more die from accidents than from combat since the end of the major military push, and even many who died during the major offensive were accidents. If you kept track of all the accidents in the military worldwide you would find there are many deaths each year without combat action.

Just give it a few more months and we'll have 1000 dead.

 

[LunarRay]

Pretty soon I'll have to break out the bell bottoms, let my hair grow long, say "hey cool man.. groovy", listen to Joan Baez and Judy Collins and play Alice's Resturant as the anthem of youth, attend Woodstock, and protest!!!

Groovy man... groovy! Goin up to Frisco .... heard there's a Love In planned for Saturday next... right on...

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
More people die in the US to violence than do in Iraq. Maybe we should give up America.

This is, of course, in no way related to the fact that there about 2,000 times as many Americans here than in Iraq.

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

Here's a news flash for you, HoP. We had peace in Iraq -- past tense.

Is that a joke? Seriously. Please tell me you are joking and I'm not sharing a message board with typing rocks.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
If you re-read the quotes today, they aren't funny anymore and have a lot of merit.

Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."

"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."

"Washington has thrown their soldiers on the fire"
"Their casualties and bodies are many."
"We will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."


All this stuff has come true. After the war was declared over, we have at least 1 person dying every day. If the casualties mount to over 1k by the end of the year, how will the American people feel? There seems to be a growing backlash to this war that is just getting started. People of all parties are realizing that many young people are dying for oil. What a shameful leader.

They've pushed us back into the swamp?

More people die in the US to violence than do in Iraq. Maybe we should give up America.

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

Give it up.....reason doesn't work with pathetic liberal moron trolls

Whenever I see liberal bashing on this forum the author uses the US flag as an icon.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
[ ... ] Please tell me you are joking and I'm not sharing a message board with typing rocks.

As far as I know, you are the only one.

Do you have any thoughtful comments to refute what I said, or are ad hominem attacks the only tool in your set of reasoning skills?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
More people die in the US to violence than do in Iraq. Maybe we should give up America.

This is, of course, in no way related to the fact that there about 2,000 times as many Americans here than in Iraq.

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

Here's a news flash for you, HoP. We had peace in Iraq -- past tense. We don't have peace there now. Whether our little adventure brings freedom to the Iraqis remains to be seen.

By the way, this is the same (ir)rationale that put us and kept us in Vietnam.

There was peace in Iraq? Well, if you look at all of the Iraqis in mass graves as at peace..., if you ignore the draining of the marshlands and the destruction of the Madan as peace, if you ignore the no fly zones and the fighting that was going on there as peace, if you ignore the fact that Saddam was supporting Palestinian terrorists with blood money, if you ignore the torture and killing of Iraqis by the Saddam regime then I guess by your definition there was peace in Iraq.

That's not my definition of peace though.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
More people die in the US to violence than do in Iraq. Maybe we should give up America.

This is, of course, in no way related to the fact that there about 2,000 times as many Americans here than in Iraq.

Aside from that, freedom and peace have never been worth dying for. Just like at the end of Braveheart, when William Wallace yells "IT WASN'T WORTH IT!"

Here's a news flash for you, HoP. We had peace in Iraq -- past tense. We don't have peace there now. Whether our little adventure brings freedom to the Iraqis remains to be seen.

By the way, this is the same (ir)rationale that put us and kept us in Vietnam.

There was peace in Iraq? Well, if you look at all of the Iraqis in mass graves as at peace..., if you ignore the draining of the marshlands and the destruction of the Madan as peace, if you ignore the no fly zones and the fighting that was going on there as peace, if you ignore the fact that Saddam was supporting Palestinian terrorists with blood money, if you ignore the torture and killing of Iraqis by the Saddam regime then I guess by your definition there was peace in Iraq.

That's not my definition of peace though.

In retrospect, I agree. My definition of "peace" was too narrow. There is more to "peace" than "not war".

I still maintain that we have yet to bring either peace or freedom to Iraq. While I hope that we do, eventually, I have no confidence that we will. The history of the region predicts otherwise. In fact, I believe our invasion and continued military presence makes this less likely.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
If you re-read the quotes today, they aren't funny anymore and have a lot of merit.

Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."

"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."

"Washington has thrown their soldiers on the fire"
"Their casualties and bodies are many."
"We will push those crooks, those mercenaries back into the swamp"
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"We are not afraid of the Americans. Allah has condemned them. They are stupid. They are stupid" (dramatic pause) "and they are condemned."


All this stuff has come true.

<---slaps the crackpipe from Barney's hand.

We have American's and our UK brothers getting killed occasionally by a few minority that have grown fond to killing over the years and gained prosperous by living off from other's miseries during Saddam's regime. It is simply a matter of seeking these individuals out and seperating their heads from their bodies.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: aluehrs
I thought I recall bush saying the war was "over" a while ago on an aircraft carrier in San Diego...?

You recalled wrong, he declared an end to major combat operations.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: aluehrs
I thought I recall bush saying the war was "over" a while ago on an aircraft carrier in San Diego...?

You recalled wrong, he declared an end to major combat operations.

We were never in a declared state of war so to declare nothing over is sorta moot... don't ya think?