Info on this Segotep PSU

[Tiber1337]

I really want to find out who is manufacturing this PSU and how it compares to well-known brands. Its costs 70 usd, most romanian feedbacks on lower wattage versions of this brands are good, but they don't use them for gaming. This brand is probably sold mostly in eastern EU /Russia.

So for those of you who are masters in the art of PSUs, see if you can find something for this model Segotep GP Series 800W, 80 PLUS GOLD


What info I have so far:

http://www.pcgarage.ro/surse/segotep/gp900g-800w

http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/ps...Y CO., LTD._SG-900G_800W_ECOS 3937_Report.pdf

Note: I would ask you not to comment with things like 'screw no-names, buy corsair' those are much more expensive in this part of the world , unless you find something at the same price same efficiency and wattage.

Bonus question: Can a PSU that has all the protections still blow up and burn the rest of your pc components ?

 

[lehtv]

If this still holds true 5 years after the article was written, then the real manufacturer of that unit is Segotep itself, because the Ecos ID is 3937, instead of something like 3937.1 which would indicate it's a rebrand of a unit manufactured by someone else. Very hard to say exactly how it performs (apart from the fact that the voltages seem very stable in the 80Plus report, a test which is done in room temperature).

Since Segotep is a Chinese company, and the price tag is quite low, I'm almost certain they use cheap low-mid tier capacitors. But this doesn't necessarily affect performance, only usable lifetime. 3 year warranty for an 800W unit isn't very reassuring. In the long term, it would be worth paying extra for a unit covered by better warranty.

Note: I would ask you not to comment with things like 'screw no-names, buy corsair' those are much more expensive in this part of the world , unless you find something at the same price same efficiency and wattage.

Is pcgarage.ro where you'll be shopping - and if not, where? What hardware are you going to be powering - do you really think you need 800 watts?

Bonus question: Can a PSU that has all the protections still blow up and burn the rest of your pc components ?

Yes, if the protections fail.

 

[Tiber1337]

@lehtv

I'll be powering an overclocked 4690k or maybe something from skylake maybe an i7. I'll also be getting something from the new AMD series, and would like room for CFX in the far far future. (I know I seem to cheap alot on the PSU while having such high dreams with the rest of the system.

I'm not going to make the purchase right now, I'm still learning about PSUs

I absolutely hate paying extra for the brands name especially since corsair, seasonic and others seem to be around 30% more expensive in my part of the world. Here the popular brands with no inflated price are Sirtec, Inter-Tech, Segotep, Raidmax and so on. 400 (100$) is the absolute maximum I'd want to spend on a psu

pcgarage.ro has the most models available, once I pick a model I'll check all sites for the best offer

 

[lehtv]

(I know I seem to cheap alot on the PSU while having such high dreams with the rest of the system.)

Yeah, that's what concerns me. When you're not even sure if you're ever actually going to go Crossfire, it makes more sense to buy a high quality unit that's the correct size for your current day needs.

Because if at some point in the future you decide you need two high end graphics cards AND you can comfortably afford to buy them, then it shouldn't be a problem to also upgrade your power supply. A quality 750-850W unit will cost maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of the cost of a single high end card.

I absolutely hate paying extra for the brands name

Yeah, paying just for a name sucks. But often in the PSU world, you pay for quality when you pay for a name. Some brands - like Seasonic - design their own units, and have a long track record of reliability. Hence, you don't just pay extra because the market perceives the brand to be worth more, but because the products are actually worth paying extra for. You just have to know which brands merely talk the talk, and which ones actually walk the walk.

I'll also be getting something from the new AMD series, and would like room for CFX in the far far future.

You can expect the R9 380-390 cards to be fairly power efficient compared to the R9 280-290 cards. And your Intel is going to be efficient as well. Basically, you can get away with a high quality 500W unit for a stock clocked high end single GPU setup. If you want to play it safe, or want to ensure the PSU runs quiet, or want plenty of room to overclock the graphics card - then considering 600W makes sense.

With that in mind ... looking through pcgarage's selection, here are some of the sub 400 RON units I'd consider high quality enough to be worth buying:

Seasonic S12II 520W 281 RON
Seasonic S12II 620W 340 RON
Corsair CX600 367 RON
Seasonic S12G 450 367 RON
Seasonic G450 376 RON
Antec HCG-620 386 RON
Corsair CX600M 399 RON

Quality wise the order is: G450 > S12G > S12II = Antec HCG > CX.

The S12II units are by far the best deals. In fact I'd consider S12II 520W quite nicely priced at $72, and the 620W is not too bad at $87. Yes, S12II is based on a somewhat old group regulated design, but time has proven it reliable, and it's covered by 5 year warranty. Antec HCG is rebranded S12II.

If you're shooting for a 200W card, pick the S12II 520W. If you want to be prepared for a 250W+ card, the S12II 620W makes sense.

Then if at some point in the future you crave for Crossfire, take another look at what you could upgrade to. Even now, there are plenty of worth-buying SLI/CF units that are hovering at a little over $100:

EVGA SuperNova 750W B2 466 RON (great unit for the price! really amazing)
Super Flower Leadex Gold 750W 500 RON (really top notch unit, awesome performance, efficiency, warranty and it's fully modular and quiet)
Seasonic M12II 750W EVO 506 RON (as above but not as efficient)
Antec TP-750C 511 RON (basically, a noisier Leadex that isn't modular )
Super Flower Leadex Gold 850W 610 RON (as the 750W unit but enough juice to power 290X crossfire)

 

[BonzaiDuck]

@lehtv

I'll be powering an overclocked 4690k or maybe something from skylake maybe an i7. I'll also be getting something from the new AMD series, and would like room for CFX in the far far future. (I know I seem to cheap alot on the PSU while having such high dreams with the rest of the system.

I'm not going to make the purchase right now, I'm still learning about PSUs

I absolutely hate paying extra for the brands name especially since corsair, seasonic and others seem to be around 30% more expensive in my part of the world. Here the popular brands with no inflated price are Sirtec, Inter-Tech, Segotep, Raidmax and so on. 400 (100$) is the absolute maximum I'd want to spend on a psu

pcgarage.ro has the most models available, once I pick a model I'll check all sites for the best offer

where is "here?" Romania? Russia? Poland?

Corsair isn't necessarily "top-end;" it might depend on the model. some of the Corsairs are rebranded or rebadged.

But, where "here" is the US, quality PSUs always cost more, and "30%" doesn't sound out of range. It is one PC component whereby you "get what you pay for." It is a component for which warranty-period is actually a reliable rule-of-thumb measure of quality. And it is THE component for which I'm likely only to look for bargains in units priced in the $100 to $150 range.

Of course the price varies positively with power-rating as well as quality. So while you should avoid under-estimating your power needs, you shouldn't over-estimate by much. Some good PSUs will sustain 100W in excess of the rated draw.

If you are going to overclock, get the best bargain you can, but get the best PSU you can find.

 

[lehtv]

Yeah and the Segotep unit was 365 RON. The EVGA 750W B2 unit is 100 ($25) more - but it's known to be a high quality unit built by a well known OEM from high quality parts. So what if you lose a bit of efficiency and a theoretical 50 watts of power - you'll have peace of mind that it works, and will continue to work, for a long time.

It is one PC component whereby you "get what you pay for." It is a component for which warranty-period is actually a reliable rule-of-thumb measure of quality.

Well said :thumbsup:

 

[Tiber1337]

Thanks a bunch for the replies. I honestly don't know why AMD recommends a 750w PSU for a single r9 290

Those PSU suggestions were great it helped me make an idea on what to get.

I guess I will go single GPU and pick one of those you suggested.

If you could tell me, how does this PSU compare to the ones you listed:

Antec True Power Classic 650w (TP-650C)

Cuz I think I can get a deal on it

 

[lehtv]

I honestly don't know why AMD recommends a 750w PSU for a single r9 290

Because they recognize that lots of 750W units on the market don't have anywhere near that much power available on the +12V rail, and don't have the quality to sustain high loads for long periods of time. They want to play it safe so that even the low-mid range units will work fine.

Antec True Power Classic 650w (TP-650C)

It's very stable, similar to Seasonic S12G/G series in its design. Can't find a review of this particular unit but the 550W and 750W versions have been reviewed well: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page673.htm

You could run two GTX 970's off of a TP-650C if it came to it - it has the necessary connectors. But it would run on the noisy side - in Techpowerup's tests, the 750W unit ramps up the ball-bearing fan to >2000RPM already at 450W load, which is a bit uncomfortable, but ensures the unit runs cool and can safely handle prolonged periods near 100% load. For the 650W, the fan will obviously go nuts a bit more easily.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm not going to make the purchase right now, I'm still learning about PSUs

I absolutely hate paying extra for the brands name especially since corsair, seasonic and others seem to be around 30% more expensive in my part of the world. Here the popular brands with no inflated price are Sirtec, Inter-Tech, Segotep, Raidmax and so on. 400 (100$) is the absolute maximum I'd want to spend on a psu

pcgarage.ro has the most models available, once I pick a model I'll check all sites for the best offer

You have a lot to learn abut PSUs then.

Corsair and Seasonic are some of the most reliable PSUs on the market.

Sirtec and RaidMax are some of the most unreliable.

Paying for a "brand-name" PSU is not like paying for designer jeans, the name-brand PSUs are actually built better. And that kind of quality and longer-term reliability simply costs extra.