Info on new NV 7900 cards

[RajunCajun]

Linky

Seems like the next gen cards will be very competitive. Lets hope the prices don't go up much higher than what they're at now!

 

[Wentelteefje]

It's a repost... And yeah, they look tasty... Not quite sure of course, but prices will prolly hover around $ 600 - 700 for the top models...

 

[dug777]

wishes the impossible, that prices will go down

 

[IlllI]

Originally posted by: dug777


wishes the impossible, that prices will go down

me too i'm still using a radeon 9800

 

[Keysplayr]

So it would only have to run at 430MHz core to match the GTX512's performance. So they say anyway. Now add about 300MHz to that. Holy shiznit!! ::rools:::
Should be a pretty powerful little ah heck. I am definately interested in the GT variant of this as I don't think I will be affording the high end 7900GTX. Dunno.
Figure the 7900GT will have at least one quad disabled and at the most two quads.
So 7900GT would be either a 24 or 28 pipe card running somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 700 MHz. Just guessing here of course. But that would be sufficient enough to run rings around my current 7800GTX.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
So it would only have to run at 430MHz core to match the GTX512's performance. So they say anyway. Now add about 300MHz to that. Holy shiznit!! ::: Drools :::
Should be a pretty powerful little ah heck. I am definately interested in the GT variant of this as I don't think I will be affording the high end 7900GTX. Dunno.
Figure the 7900GT will have at least one quad disabled and at the most two quads.
So 7900GT would be either a 24 or 28 pipe card running somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 700 MHz. Just guessing here of course. But that would be sufficient enough to run rings around my current 7800GTX.

Hopefully the GT's will sell for somewhere in the $300-400 ballpark, a $700ish SLI set that stomps a 7800 GTX 512 SLI set sounds like a winner to me.

 

[Matt2]

Am I the only one hoping that since these wont be cherry picked cores, the prices wont be so damn high?

 

[Wentelteefje]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
So it would only have to run at 430MHz core to match the GTX512's performance. So they say anyway. Now add about 300MHz to that. Holy shiznit!! ::rools:::
Should be a pretty powerful little ah heck. I am definately interested in the GT variant of this as I don't think I will be affording the high end 7900GTX. Dunno.
Figure the 7900GT will have at least one quad disabled and at the most two quads.
So 7900GT would be either a 24 or 28 pipe card running somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 700 MHz. Just guessing here of course. But that would be sufficient enough to run rings around my current 7800GTX.

Probably even less, as it features 10 vertex shaders instead of 8, and 32 TMU's e.g... So mathematically it should be about 430MHz, but there are more factors than just the speed...

 

[Jaskalas]

Supply and demand, prices will go down when we stop buying them at current or higher prices. Good luck at that.

 

[AthlonAlien]

13,000 in 3DMark05... I am kind of disappointed (seriously)... Hopefully with a dual core @ 2.8 and a decent o/c on the card itself, it will be more in the 15,000 range...

Any comments?

 

[destrekor]

thats a decent addition with only a refresh if you ask me

im hoping it comes out before March 1st. I will cry if it doesn't.. my step-up period ends on march 1st... so hopefully launching be the end of february is realistic...

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: AthlonAlien
13,000 in 3DMark05... I am kind of disappointed (seriously)... Hopefully with a dual core @ 2.8 and a decent o/c on the card itself, it will be more in the 15,000 range...

Any comments?

X1900XTX benches

If you think 13,000 is bad, you're really not going to like 11,149. Alkthough I dont know if I trust those benches at all. Especially when the 7900 score reads "~13,000"

 

[John Reynolds]

I always take these leaked pre-announcement teaser #s with a grain of salt, but 13k from a non-special (a la Phantom Edition/512MB GTX) board would be damn impressive. The IQ junkie in me just wishes both companies would offer high AA sample options and for both to improve their texture filtering.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: John Reynolds
I always take these leaked pre-announcement teaser #s with a grain of salt, but 13k from a non-special (a la Phantom Edition/512MB GTX) board would be damn impressive. The IQ junkie in me just wishes both companies would offer high AA sample options and for both to improve their texture filtering.

SOunds like you need SLI-AA!

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: AthlonAlien
13,000 in 3DMark05... I am kind of disappointed (seriously)... Hopefully with a dual core @ 2.8 and a decent o/c on the card itself, it will be more in the 15,000 range...

Any comments?

Dissappointed how?

7800GTX gets @ 7500 to 8000
7900GTX supposedly gets 13000

I'm not including the 7800GTX512 only because it's not a main production card and only sort of a limited edition. Even though some say new shipments are coming in.

So 5000 to 5500 increase in 3Dmark05 is not impressive to you? Especially for a single card? Interesting.

 

[John Reynolds]

Originally posted by: Matt2

SOunds like you need SLI-AA!

Hehe. What I really want is stochastic AA support, though the day either company spends the die space on it may make for a long, long wait.

 

[AthlonAlien]

Maybe I was just doing a little too much "wishful thinking"... a pair of 7800GTs in SLI (volt moded) can do 14,000 on air... I just thought the 7900GTX would do more than that...

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: AthlonAlien
Maybe I was just doing a little too much "wishful thinking"... a pair of 7800GTs in SLI (volt moded) can do 14,000 on air... I just thought the 7900GTX would do more than that...

Yeah. But 5000 3Dmarks more is like taking a current 7800GTX and bolting on the power of a 6800Ultra.

7800 3dmarks to 13000 is just about a 70% increase.

Your 7800GTs are volt modded and heavily o/c'd correct? What scores were you getting stock? And imagine voltmodding and o/c'ing the 7900's. Yeeouuch! And then SLI them. Mwuhahahahaaa

 

[John Reynolds]

If those #s are even remotely accurate I don't understand the disappointment in the performance gains of a refresh part either. That's a substantial boost in the synthetic test suite, one that hopefully carries over into most games (a comment on synthetics more than 3DMark05).

 

[akugami]

If those 7900GTX numbers are even remotely accurate that would speak against SLI and Crossfire. I think I'll wait for gaming benchmark numbers. We've seen differences of nearly 2000pts in 3DMark that only translates to a few percentage point differences in real world benchmarks between ATI and nVidia on average. I'd also like to know what's the word on video encoding and decoding for the 7900's.

At this point with the power of the higher end video cards I can get decent performance (granted without every bell & whistle) at high resolutions and good frame rates with any 7800, X1800 and higher. I'm looking for other features like video encoding and decoding and advanced physics acceleration.

 

[Matt2]

If those 7900GTX numbers are even remotely accurate that would speak against SLI and Crossfire.

Not really, considering 7900 SLI would yield around 19,000 3dmarks.

If those numbers are true, it jsut means that game developers need to actually make use of such raw GPU power.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

3dmark speculations from hexus. who reads that ******.

 

[John Reynolds]

Ah, lighten up. It helps moisten the palate, gets the juices flowing, the excitement growing.

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I'm not including the 7800GTX512 only because it's not a main production card and only sort of a limited edition. Even though some say new shipments are coming in.

Anyone else think this 700MHz "GTX" will be a limited edition, like the 550MHz GTX-512, or is it just me? I'm not saying that's a bad thing, as a 700MHz 32-pipe G70 sounds awesome, but ppl seem to think that NV will shoot out 700MHz cards like candy. I'm thinking a 700MHz G71 will cost the big bucks, maybe more than a (piddling) 650MHz XTX.

But maybe NV's got a better handle on this 90nm thingy, or maybe ATI is aiming more for maximal production than speed. NV's surprised me once before with a 550MHz GTX (even tho we don't know what's the availability holdup), so it's not out of their reach.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Pete

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I'm not including the 7800GTX512 only because it's not a main production card and only sort of a limited edition. Even though some say new shipments are coming in.

Anyone else think this 700MHz "GTX" will be a limited edition, like the 550MHz GTX-512, or is it just me? I'm not saying that's a bad thing, as a 700MHz 32-pipe G70 sounds simply monstrous, but ppl seem to think that NV will shoot out 700MHz cards like candy. I'm thinking a 700MHz G71 will cost the big bucks, maybe more than a (piddling) 650MHz XTX.

You have to remember that the 512 GTXs were nothing more than cherry picked 7800GTX 256 cores. Limited number of cores that could do 550mhz means limited quantities = high prices.

G71 is a new ballgame. Nvidia shrunk the die to 90nm which more than accounts for the 700mhz claim. X1800XT users hitting 700mhz no problem with a 90nm die.