Industrial Engineers I need your help...

[sao123]

Ok, so we need to buy a new cargo cart for everyday office use, but i need to know if it will fit in our elevator...

See diagram My Elevator and cart.

the cart is 30 x 60 and the elevator is 50 x 80 with 42 inch doors...
will the carts turn radius allow us to turn the cart into the elevator or do I have to get a 48 inch cart instead?


DRAWING not drawn to scale

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

why do you need industrial engineers when grade school math students will do? :worried;

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
why do you need industrial engineers when grade school math students will do? :worried;

because this is what industrial engineers get paid to do... and i foget how to do trigonometry.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
why do you need industrial engineers when grade school math students will do? :worried;

thats what i was thinking, give him time, his basic math will come back with an answer.

**Answer is no**

actually i dont really know, but i guess no.

 

[Fiat1]

Yes, order 6

 

[kranky]

You could take four slats of wood, assemble them into a 30x60 outline, and shove it around on the floor to see if it fits.

 

[Kermy]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
why do you need industrial engineers when grade school math students will do? :worried;

because this is what industrial engineers get paid to do... and i foget how to do trigonometry.

Uh no...This isn't what industrial engineers do, this is what highschoolers do. Don't be lazy and do your own calculations.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: kranky
You could take four slats of wood, assemble them into a 30x60 outline, and shove it around on the floor to see if it fits.

too much work.

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky
You could take four slats of wood, assemble them into a 30x60 outline, and shove it around on the floor to see if it fits.

too much work.

Is there no place for analog solutions anymore?

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Kermy

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
why do you need industrial engineers when grade school math students will do? :worried;

because this is what industrial engineers get paid to do... and i foget how to do trigonometry.

Uh no...This isn't what industrial engineers do, this is what highschoolers do. Don't be lazy and do your own calculations.

u think this is homework? I'm 28 and havent been in school for over 6 years.

and yes... industrial engineers do this type of thing... we contract them for workspace anylasis and design. I believe the technical term is workspace ergonomics.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky
You could take four slats of wood, assemble them into a 30x60 outline, and shove it around on the floor to see if it fits.

too much work.

Is there no place for analog solutions anymore?

with the current price of wood around here, I could just buy both the 48 & 60 inch carts without doing any real world modeling.

 

[Bootprint]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky
You could take four slats of wood, assemble them into a 30x60 outline, and shove it around on the floor to see if it fits.

too much work.

Is there no place for analog solutions anymore?

with the current price of wood around here, I could just buy both the 48 & 60 inch carts without doing any real world modeling.

Then scale down and use a couple of pieces of paper.

 

[Abel007]

I'm going to say no, but I am not an engineer of any kind. The 6in gap between the doors and elevator would spoil any attemps at angling it in then turning the cart. Then again, I could be completely wrong.

EDIT: What is the measurements of your current cart?

 

[SaturnX]

Depending on how the freedom of motion is on the carts wheels, it may be possible. But it'll be a pretty tight fit.

The biggest problem is the door.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Bootprint

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky
You could take four slats of wood, assemble them into a 30x60 outline, and shove it around on the floor to see if it fits.

too much work.

Is there no place for analog solutions anymore?

with the current price of wood around here, I could just buy both the 48 & 60 inch carts without doing any real world modeling.

Then scale down and use a couple of pieces of paper.

But then I would have to complain that im doing things not in my job description and I would have to ask for out of class pay and a promotion and if i dont get it i'd have to quit.
Its just easier to ask a board full of engineers.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Abel007
I'm going to say no, but I am not an engineer of any kind. The 6in gap between the doors and elevator would spoil any attemps at angling it in then turning the cart. Then again, I could be completely wrong.

EDIT: What is the measurements of your current cart?

30 x 48

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Bootprint

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: kranky
You could take four slats of wood, assemble them into a 30x60 outline, and shove it around on the floor to see if it fits.

too much work.

Is there no place for analog solutions anymore?

with the current price of wood around here, I could just buy both the 48 & 60 inch carts without doing any real world modeling.

Then scale down and use a couple of pieces of paper.

But then I would have to complain that im doing things not in my job description and I would have to ask for out of class pay and a promotion and if i dont get it i'd have to quit.
Its just easier to ask a board full of engineers.

I've just done a scaled down paper cut out and it will fit.

So yes .. would you like me to upload a picture of the paper cut outs?

 

[Furyline]

I just made a drawing in gimp which is close to scale... I would not risk it, it would be so close, you would need perfect freedom to move and just the right angle to cram it in there. I might have made the elevator a little small, but still. I would say get the smaller cart.

pic

edit: it also will depend on where the opening of the elevator is.

edit2: doh just saw your drawing forget this

 

[sao123]

thanks guys. I'll go with the smaller cart.

 

[sao123]

just read the catalog... 30x60 doesnt even account for the handle of the cart...so its more like 30x62...
definately going with the smaller cart.

 

[RichUK]

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[Rubycon]

Talk to a piano mover. They can make anything fit.

 

[Baked]

WTB [OP's Brain] 50S

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: sao123
just read the catalog... 30x60 doesnt even account for the handle of the cart...so its more like 30x62...
definately going with the smaller cart.

No, no. Go by my paper cut outs, it fits i tell thee.

 

[Furyline]

Originally posted by: RichUK
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How bored am i.

Wow.:Q