induction clean, oil change, and emissions: 425 at nissan

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Mark R

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Induction service should cost around $75. It's rarely needed though.

Might be useful if you have a direct injected engine without port injection and are getting intermittent rough idle or misfires because of carbon build-up on intake valves. Of little use for anything else as the fuel injection will keep the carbon at bay, provided you use decent fuel.
 
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shortylickens said:
Came in for emissions test, they said i also needed oil change and induction cleaning.
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"emissions test", you mean for the state inspection measuring the exhaust gases?

But for induction just get a can of carb cleaner and spray out the throttle body and PCV/Line. Skip their "service" unless it was a known car that has issues like many VW/Audi.
 
halik

halik

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emission check is free, oil change on any nissan is $50 and the air filter is like 30 bucks tops?

Rip off city.
 
z1ggy

z1ggy

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halik said:
emission check is free, oil change on any nissan is $50 and the air filter is like 30 bucks tops?

Rip off city.
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Seriously...I would have smacked that person in the face when they told me $425.
 
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Mutilator

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Perhaps he has a direct injection engine and needs a walnut blasting of his intake valves? Fuel system cleaner won't do any good. If so, that's not a bad deal. If not... meh.
 
shortylickens

shortylickens

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I told them no.

Obviously was not a bargain.

Took it to someone else. Nothing needed cleaning, oil was not in need of a change, state emissions inspection was 12 dollars.
 
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Pacfanweb

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shortylickens said:
I told them no.

Obviously was not a bargain.

Took it to someone else. Nothing needed cleaning, oil was not in need of a change, state emissions inspection was 12 dollars.
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Wait...you are letting someone recommend whether you need an oil change? Are you not keeping up with the mileage? That's not something you bring to a shop and ask "does my oil need changing?"

And I have a hard time believing JUST an oil change, inspection and fuel system cleaning and nothing else was $425. If it was, there's no way that shop will stay in business.
 
The Boston Dangler

The Boston Dangler

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very much info is missing from that $425 bill. $425 would buy me a major service, including taking apart the dash for the interior air filter and lots of other crap. and dinner.

and WTF is with an opinion on oil changes?
 
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The Boston Dangler said:
very much info is missing from that $425 bill. $425 would buy me a major service, including taking apart the dash for the interior air filter and lots of other crap. and dinner.

and WTF is with an opinion on oil changes?
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Yes to all....but....changing the $15 cabin air filter takes 5 minutes, in the Camry at least.
 
shortylickens

shortylickens

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It was under the mileage for a required oil change. So when they said the oil was gritty and chunky I was worried.

Next guy said oil was fine.
 
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MustISO

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I'm sure a ton of people fall for this but dealers really need to compete better with the independent shops if they want to survive.
 
phucheneh

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MustISO said:
I'm sure a ton of people fall for this but dealers really need to compete better with the independent shops if they want to survive.
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Not really. If a dealer can cultivate the proper 'I don't care what it costs; just fix it' clientele, they make plenty.

Indies can have similar clientele, but it's rare. We depend more on people's shit being totally broken. And then still trying to outprice someone else.

OP is getting a crazy reaming, regardless. Even if that 'induction service' is of the most premium variety- clean throttle by hand, run valve/combustion chamber cleaner through an IV drip, hook up pressurized container of injector cleaner to fuel rail...that's usually like 150-200 bucks at most. Just the generic intake drip should be less than 100, and they're fucking crooks if they don't include cleaning the throttle with it.

What chaps my ass the most is how people try and sell this stuff. 'Oh, we saw your power steering fluid was terribly dirty, you should really let us flush it. Oh, and the trans fluid, too. Oh, and you're in terrible need on fuel injection service!'

That's the kind of crap that makes customers ignore you when you 100% legitmately tell them that they have about a half a millimeter of brake pad remaining, or a ball joint or tie rod end is about to totally let go, ect. Maintenance should be discussed with customers to see if they're up to date; not sold like snake oil.
 
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BUTCH1

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phucheneh said:
Not really. If a dealer can cultivate the proper 'I don't care what it costs; just fix it' clientele, they make plenty.

Indies can have similar clientele, but it's rare. We depend more on people's shit being totally broken. And then still trying to outprice someone else.

OP is getting a crazy reaming, regardless. Even if that 'induction service' is of the most premium variety- clean throttle by hand, run valve/combustion chamber cleaner through an IV drip, hook up pressurized container of injector cleaner to fuel rail...that's usually like 150-200 bucks at most. Just the generic intake drip should be less than 100, and they're fucking crooks if they don't include cleaning the throttle with it.

What chaps my ass the most is how people try and sell this stuff. 'Oh, we saw your power steering fluid was terribly dirty, you should really let us flush it. Oh, and the trans fluid, too. Oh, and you're in terrible need on fuel injection service!'

That's the kind of crap that makes customers ignore you when you 100% legitmately tell them that they have about a half a millimeter of brake pad remaining, or a ball joint or tie rod end is about to totally let go, ect. Maintenance should be discussed with customers to see if they're up to date; not sold like snake oil.
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I had my oil changes done at my dealer for the first 36K miles just in case something went seriously wrong I had the receipts showing it was changed at the proper intervals, one time they overfilled it by a full quart, I had to bring it back. Right around 30K they did one and took a small sampling of my tranny fluid and had it in a bottle next to a sample of new fluid, " see how yours doesn't look the same?, how about a flush for $149.99?", fuck no dimwits, no shit, 3 year old tranny fluid isn't going to look the same, it's been on the road daily for 3 years. I did a pan drop@ 50K and changed it myself. Then when I did my first oil change the drain bolt was on so tight I had to put the car on stands so I could get enough clearance to use a breaker bar!, it was on tighter than a lug nut, ditto the filter, I think they hired a gorilla to install filters, I was barely able to get it off with out it coming apart, I almost had to use the "screwdriver spearfish technique" to get it off!
 
monkeydelmagico

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shortylickens said:
So when they said the oil was gritty and chunky I was worried.
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That is such a tragic lie it should be criminal. I really hope you decide to leave yelp, angie's list, yahoo, ect. feedback about these crooks. Consider it civic duty and a public service.
 
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Mutilator said:
Perhaps he has a direct injection engine and needs a walnut blasting of his intake valves? Fuel system cleaner won't do any good. If so, that's not a bad deal. If not... meh.
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Quickkleen or Ring Free, both are products used ion the marine field.
 
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