Indianapolis auto workers drive UAW executives out of meeting

[IndyColtsFan]

You guys are forgetting a few things about this situation. In the original article I posted, GM was giving the union employees all sorts of incentives to vote for the sale. IIRC, one incentive was giving them a $35,000 pay out and then after working for Norman, they could go to another GM plant for their FULL SALARY. Also, GM had another option where you could retire with full pension and still work for Norman.

GM went out of its way to help these guys. If it were me, I probably would've started training and looking for other work when talk of the plant closing started circulating in 2007. Otherwise, I would've voted for the sale and retired from GM (if I were eligible) or take the $35,000 pay out, work for Norman for a year or two, and then either find something else or move to GM.

Now, these 700 employees have to hope GM will transfer them to other plants and my guess is GM will tell them to get screwed. The funny thing is that many of the union workers were going around saying that there was no way GM would close the plant because they thought they were the only ones who could do that work for GM.

 

[StageLeft]

Yeah they'd probably be as lazy as salaried white collar workers posting on the internet on their bosses dime about how lazy Union Workers are.

You are not normally so transparent, Red.

 

[Mursilis]

The funny thing is that many of the union workers were going around saying that there was no way GM would close the plant because they thought they were the only ones who could do that work for GM.

"Layoffs?!?! That never happens!!"

 

[lothar]

You guys are forgetting a few things about this situation. In the original article I posted, GM was giving the union employees all sorts of incentives to vote for the sale. IIRC, one incentive was giving them a $35,000 pay out and then after working for Norman, they could go to another GM plant for their FULL SALARY. Also, GM had another option where you could retire with full pension and still work for Norman.

GM went out of its way to help these guys. If it were me, I probably would've started training and looking for other work when talk of the plant closing started circulating in 2007. Otherwise, I would've voted for the sale and retired from GM (if I were eligible) or take the $35,000 pay out, work for Norman for a year or two, and then either find something else or move to GM.

Now, these 700 employees have to hope GM will transfer them to other plants and my guess is GM will tell them to get screwed. The funny thing is that many of the union workers were going around saying that there was no way GM would close the plant because they thought they were the only ones who could do that work for GM.

WOW. This just keeps getting better and better.

 

[halik]

Stopped reading at:

"GM and the UAW are now denouncing workers for opposing the destruction of their living standards."

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

My wife's nephew is a supervisor for Chrysler. He had the news on as he was getting ready for work one morning and caught probably the first broadcast about the guys caught drinking and smoking pot on their lunch break. He said he stood there watching and that the majority of the guys worked for him. He said all their names out loud as they were pictured.

Fortunately, he had been complaining to his superiors for some time about the behavior of these guys and many more under his control. The system is rigged in favor of the workers so he got nowhere. His ass was covered though.

I joked with him that these guys they caught were actually the good guys because they waited until lunch to get their buzz on while the rest of them were doing it right on the job. It was a joke and an obvious exaggeration, but he said there was a lot of truth to it.

We're not going to survive with the unions getting strengthened the way they are right now. The system is broken and if it can't be scrapped, it needs to be severely contained for now. This problem goes way, way beyond auto workers.

wow, you've done a complete 180 since i last saw your posts regarding auto unions.
i guess you've seen the light.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Yeah they'd probably be as lazy as salaried white collar workers posting on the internet on their bosses dime about how lazy Union Workers are.

except my company is making money hand over fist, without any govt bailout.
and i don't have to hide behind a union.

 

[JSt0rm]

So your plan is to start doing night classes after they announced they would close the plant in 3-6 months?
How much night classes can one do in 3-6 months after the plant closure notification?

If you tell them to fuck off, you better have another job offer in your hand or be a rich person with money saved in the bank and not be a person that lives paycheck to paycheck.

Your plan is a huge gamble because you don't know(unless you're one of the company execs) if the plant would be closed 3 months after they made the announcement or 2 years after.

Life is a big gamble. We can not be complacent in where we are and we must always be ready to absorb new skills as needed. I would of started school 2 years ago. Like when this thread was started. Not that I think school is some magic bullet its not but for some guy living in indiana and working in a factory its the best chance.