Indiana Pizzeria goes all in; will not cater gay weddings

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umbrella39

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Looks like they are shut down now.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/in...nti-gay-remarks-to-media/ar-AAakqnD?ocid=iehp



I wonder how long "temporarily" is.

Yelp has deleted 1000+ reviews but more keep pouring in. Good and bad. The hilarious part is those that are 5 staring them almost all invariably are calling this a liberal vs conservative issue... How fucking stupid can they be. I work in healthcare with very conservative nurses and doctors and not a one of them agree with this law.

I found this part of your linked article the most telling and pretty much frames the mindset of the bigot:

Crystal added of the controversial Religious Freedom Restoration Act, saying she doesn't think the bill targets gays or discriminates...

Yet I am going to use this bill to target gays and discriminate. Only in America.

Those making threats to them should be jailed. Period.
 

sportage

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Oh boy. Here they go.
Using that old big bad Gays and save our religious freedoms excuse to justify they were about to close shop regardless from their own business failures.

Just like the religious right complaining about some bakery under attack and in court because she refused to cater a gay wedding. And that state is suing.
First of all, if any business owner in simply in business to make some political statement or religious statement, they should not do business in the first place.

Maybe in some communist country, sure. But in this country that is not how it works.
That's like saying you refuse to work in some office because a black person works there too, or a gay person. And you refuse to work with blacks or gays. Claiming that your religious work rights are under attack.

Sorry bigot. It doesn't work that way either.
If it's too hot in the kitchen, don't stand in the kitchen.

Maybe people are not bigots in this religious freedom rights thing, after all.
Maybe they are just morons.
And by the way, morons step on my religious rights.
I refuse to associate with a moron, for religious reasons. ;)
 

HomerJS

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Oh boy. Here they go.
Using that old big bad Gays and save our religious freedoms excuse to justify they were about to close shop regardless from their own business failures.

Just like the religious right complaining about some bakery under attack and in court because she refused to cater a gay wedding. And that state is suing.
First of all, if any business owner in simply in business to make some political statement or religious statement, they should not do business in the first place.

Maybe in some communist country, sure. But in this country that is not how it works.
That's like saying you refuse to work in some office because a black person works there too, or a gay person. And you refuse to work with blacks or gays. Claiming that your religious work rights are under attack.

Sorry bigot. It doesn't work that way either.
If it's too hot in the kitchen, don't stand in the kitchen.

Maybe people are not bigots in this religious freedom rights thing, after all.
Maybe they are just morons.
And by the way, morons step on my religious rights.
I refuse to associate with a moron, for religious reasons. ;)

I don't think there is anything in the bible that even hints "thou shalt not serve gay people"

I do recall what it says about rich people
 

sandorski

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I don't think there is anything in the bible that even hints "thou shalt not serve gay people"

I do recall what it says about rich people

There is the part of Stoning them though. I wonder if they give Pot to Gay Coloradans and Washingtonians?
 

schmuckley

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If that were an April Fools joke, that's the worst kind ever, because that will have lasting repercussions on business/sales. So why screw around unless you really believe in the idea?

These Religious Freedom laws... I just cannot believe they are getting passed in this day and age. I guess it's the last ditch grab for relevance for the hardcore religious, hopefully the overall trend of dropping this bullshit will continue. There are always speed bumps on the road of progress, hopefully this is one of them.

These new laws are nothing but plain discrimination under the cover of religion, anyone who doesn't see that is either lying or ignorant and incompetent.

umm..yeah..ok. o_O
There is no right to force someone to condone deviant sexual behavior anywhere on the law books.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...laws-like-indianas-that-no-one-is-boycotting/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States

Thomas Jefferson made a law that anyone caught committing sodomy should be castrated.
Whatcha think about that?

What country do you live in?

Being homosexual ≠ being born of a certain race or sex.
Yes one is free to be homosexual.
When they want to start forcing others to approve of their sexual preferences;It's not going to go well.

Accept someone for who they are=yes.
Be forced to publicly approve what they do=no.

The homosexual lobby is probably the biggest enemy of all homosexuals.They do not know when to stop.
They have crossed the line already to the point where most families are fed up with their shit.

There's a lot more more families than homosexuals,btw.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-u-s-population-is-gay-lesbian-or-bisexual/

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/12/14/barely-half-of-u-s-adults-are-married-a-record-low/

51% of the population is married.

vs maybe 4% that's "gay"

also,see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act
 
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LegendKiller

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Only in America where freedom of religion, property rights, and freedom of speech is overcome by overbearing hipsters pushing an agenda in a freedom hating manner.
 
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Only in America where freedom of religion, property rights, and freedom of speech is overcome by overbearing hipsters pushing an agenda in a freedom hating manner.

Yeah, like that freedom hating hipster who helped write the Constitution, John Adams...

If a majority are capable of preferring their own private interest, or that of their families, counties, and party, to that of the nation collectively, some provision must be made in the constitution, in favor of justice, to compel all to respect the common right, the public good, the universal law, in preference to all private and partial considerations... And that the desires of the majority of the people are often for injustice and inhumanity against the minority, is demonstrated by every page of history... To remedy the dangers attendant upon the arbitrary use of power, checks, however multiplied, will scarcely avail without an explicit admission some limitation of the right of the majority to exercise sovereign authority over the individual citizen... In popular governments [democracies], minorities [individuals] constantly run much greater risk of suffering from arbitrary power than in absolute monarchies...
 

LegendKiller

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Yeah, like that freedom hating hipster who helped write the Constitution, John Adams...

Forcing people to either go against their religion or face lawsuits and ultimately being driven out of business is not something he would have preferred.

I agree that it is a fine line given anybody could start a religion hating any minority group.
 
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How did John Adams feel about sodomy?
He surely didn't approve of it in the Navy:
https://books.google.com/books?id=A...Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=john adams sodomy&f=false

or probably anywhere else either..not even his cousin.

And George Washington owned slaves. Shit, I guess we better abandon this whole "America" idea; it wasn't founded by perfect people. And yet, in spite of their foibles, they seemed to have some decent ideas. Like framing the government so that laws could be updated based on shifting perceptions of morality, which allowed for passage of the 14th Amendment, whose language was later used as the basis for the Civil Rights Act which helped codify in law that businesses were not allowed to discriminate against previously disenfranchised groups. But history is tricky, so let's just stick with "Adams hated the buttsex, this is a Christian nation, NOHOMO." Wouldn't want to confuse you by forcing you to read facts.
 

schmuckley

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And George Washington owned slaves. Shit, I guess we better abandon this whole "America" idea; it wasn't founded by perfect people. And yet, in spite of their foibles, they seemed to have some decent ideas. Like framing the government so that laws could be updated based on shifting perceptions of morality, which allowed for passage of the 14th Amendment, whose language was later used as the basis for the Civil Rights Act which helped codify in law that businesses were not allowed to discriminate against previously disenfranchised groups. But history is tricky, so let's just stick with "Adams hated the buttsex, this is a Christian nation, NOHOMO." Wouldn't want to confuse you by forcing you to read facts.

They never intended for America to be immoral;I can guarantee you that.
No God=No standard of morality.
..and when they said religion they meant Christianity.
"shifting perceptions" What kind of crap is that?
That is something that really doesn't change.
There were free blacks in Colonial times, btw..
and black slave owners, too.
The facts are..Founding Fathers would not put up with that bullshit.
Twisting and taking things out of context to advance ones agenda and whatnot.
Let's get back to this "shifting perceptions"
because that sounds to me a lot like "objective morality"
or as I call it: "bovine fecal matter".
 

DrPizza

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umm..yeah..ok. o_O
There is no right to force someone to condone deviant sexual behavior anywhere on the law books.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...laws-like-indianas-that-no-one-is-boycotting/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act
Are you saying that gays wait until marriage before having intercourse? If that's the case, then it seems they have higher moral values than many Christians.

If it's not the case, then it seems pretty stupid to be claiming that a marriage is tied to what they do with their sex lives. Hell, a lot of married straight people rarely have sex. That's not what marriage is about.
 

umbrella39

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The overt stupidity on display in some of these replies surprises no one.

Some of you guys spend so much time with your heads up your ass you'd think the thought of a dick going up there, too, wouldn't be so overwhelming...
 

schmuckley

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Are you saying that gays wait until marriage before having intercourse? If that's the case, then it seems they have higher moral values than many Christians.

If it's not the case, then it seems pretty stupid to be claiming that a marriage is tied to what they do with their sex lives. Hell, a lot of married straight people rarely have sex. That's not what marriage is about.


wtf?
Marriage sure isn't about gay sex,I can tell you that.
It's about having children and raising a family.
No time for sexual deviancy.
When's the last time a homosexual couple had kids together?
owait..they don't.. EVER
 

ivwshane

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wtf?
Marriage sure isn't about gay sex,I can tell you that.
It's about having children and raising a family.
No time for sexual deviancy.
When's the last time a homosexual couple had kids together?
owait..they don't.. EVER

Homosexuals don't have kids?
All straight and married couples have kids and raise a family?

Those are the only reasons people get married? People get married for a variety of reasons.

Your ignorance tonight has hit a new high!
 

schmuckley

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Homosexuals don't have kids?
All straight and married couples have kids and raise a family?

Those are the only reasons people get married?

Your ignorance tonight has hit a new hi!

No they do not;It's physically impossible,derp!

:awe:
Before you start posting links with some "gay dad" or something..remember:He had sex with a woman in order to have that child.
 
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ivwshane

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No they do not;It's physically impossible,derp!

:awe:
Before you start posting links with some "gay dad" or something..remember:He had sex with a woman in order to have that child.

No you fucking moron, gay men can and do adopt. Gay women can get impregnated from donor sperm (no sex needed).


Good job moron!

Lol!
 

schmuckley

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No you fucking moron, gay men can and do adopt. Gay women can get impregnated from donor sperm (no sex needed).


Good job moron!

Lol!

Yes,that's ever so common o_O
and normal..
..and the kids grow up normally, too. :eek:
The only thing worse is state babies.
I'm guessing that's what you're pushing for though.
Invitro-fertilized State babies;Indoctrinated from birth.
Slaves.
 

ivwshane

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Yes,that's ever so common o_O
and normal..
..and the kids grow up normally, too. :eek:
The only thing worse is state babies.
I'm guessing that's what you're pushing for though.
Invitro-fertilized State babies;Indoctrinated from birth.
Slaves.

Quoting for preservation. When you sober up I imagine you'll have a good laugh.
 

schmuckley

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Quoting for preservation. When you sober up I imagine you'll have a good laugh.

At your ignorance? probably.

Seriously..Having gay parents is only 1 step above being a State baby.
It's not right,and kids know it's not right.
Everyone knows it's not right for that matter.

Take some extra time off for this.

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