Indiana becomes a right to work state

[halik]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46147284

It will be interesting to see the economic impact of that. Coming from Michigan, I generally don't favor inflated high wages for few and double digit unemployment for the rest.

 

[glenn1]

If unions honestly provide the value to workers they claim, it should not be a problem to move away from a closed shop environment and have workers voluntarily join.

 

[cybrsage]

ALL states should be right to work states. If a shop turns union and you do not want to join, it should be illegal to fire you for not joining the union.

 

[theeedude]

ALL states should be right to work states. If a shop turns union and you do not want to join, it should be illegal to fire you for not joining the union.

And illegal to fire you for joining the union.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Can those that were forced to pay dues get them back from the union?

 

[cybrsage]

And illegal to fire you for joining the union.

Correct.

 

[hal2kilo]

Cool, more let's vote against our self interest laws. Right to work for less money. Yippee!

 

[cybrsage]

Cool, more let's vote against our self interest laws. Right to work for less money. Yippee!

Right to work means you cannot be fired if you are in a non-union shop that suddenly goes union against your wishes and you do not join it.

Why do you think a good worker should be fired for NOT joining a union?

 

[Texashiker]

And illegal to fire you for joining the union.

Organized labor brought about more changes in the workplace then un-organized labor.

Why can wal-mart pay poverty level wages? Because the workers are not allowed to have a union.

I wonder how many people replying to this thread have ever been in a union? Have any of yall ever worked in poor or dangerous conditions?

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Unions have brought about a lot of positive change for middle class workers in this country.

Ask yourself this question. Why were unions created in the first place?

 

[soundforbjt]

And most of the union haters here probably owe most of their current working conditions they enjoy (hours/day/week. wages, etc) indirectly to unions.

 

[Ausm]

Right to work for less following the Koch Bros playbook by the letter!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

And most of the union haters here probably owe most of their current working conditions they enjoy (hours/day/week. wages, etc) indirectly to unions.

I don't think anyone denies that. I think most wonder if the time for unions has passed, however.

 

[Ausm]

I don't think anyone denies that. I think most wonder if the time for unions has passed, however.

Ask that question to the NFL players.

 

[PeshakJang]

Unions have brought about a lot of positive change for middle class workers in this country.

Ask yourself this question. Why were unions created in the first place?

I like your logic. Nothing that at one point was needed will ever serve a purpose other than that for which it was created. Got it.

 

[sactoking]

Organized labor brought about more changes in the workplace then un-organized labor.

Why can wal-mart pay poverty level wages? Because the workers are not allowed to have a union.

I wonder how many people replying to this thread have ever been in a union? Have any of yall ever worked in poor or dangerous conditions?

Ummm, no. They pay low wages because they not only hire unskilled labor, but they hire some of the worst unskilled labor in the country.

Aside from that, the workers aren't "not allowed to have a union"; the workers don't want a union. Big unions have been trying to get into Wal-Mart for a long time now and the workers keep saying no.

 

[zsdersw]

I don't think anyone denies that. I think most wonder if the time for unions has passed, however.

This.

... and yes, that time has passed.. particularly in the public sector.

 

[glenn1]

Unions have brought about a lot of positive change for middle class workers in this country.

I guess unions bring so much positive, that people don't feel worthy to be in the presence of their awesomeness; thus the need for laws requiring
workers to join.

 

[umbrella39]

Unions have brought about a lot of positive change for middle class workers in this country.

Ask yourself this question. Why were unions created in the first place?

Can't wait for the next Battle of the Miller Road overpass in Dearborn... hopefully the modern day equivalents to Reuther and Frankensteen don't cave to the next would-be Harry Bennett and his thugs.

 

[Ausm]

I guess unions bring so much positive, that people don't feel worthy to be in the presence of their awesomeness; thus the need for laws requiring
workers to join.

If a worker doesn't want to join what's stopping them from finding a new job?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

To prevent what is going to happen when right to work rolls out.

Like employees having more take home pay?

 

[zsdersw]

If a worker doesn't want to join what's stopping them from finding a new job?

That's an argument for why unions are no longer needed; employee mobility is, oh I don't know, a billion times what it was in the early days of the industrial revolution.

 

[Lemon law]

I don't think anyone denies that. I think most wonder if the time for unions has passed, however.

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Maybe exactly the point, as right to work states will soon have the most exploited workers in the nations. Then thus proving repealing right to work laws will be an immediate need. Its says something about gutless Indiana legislators, who said yes when the wiser Ohio legislatures said no. And we already know what is happening in Wisconsin.

Engaging in class warfare is never smart.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

If a worker doesn't want to join what's stopping them from finding a new job?

God forbid the unions lose money/power due to the lack of funding from due......boohoohoo!!!!!!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

as right to work states will soon have the most exploited workers in the nations.

It hasn't happened in the other 23 states, why would it start happening now?